The most important step in any exterior wood restoration or maintenance project is to prep the surface properly prior to staining. Armstrong Clark Wood Stains are quality formulated wood coatings with five generations worth of experience that will give your deck lasting beauty and protection.

To ensure you get the expected results from any of the Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Stain products it is essential that the wood surface be cleaned and prepped prior to staining.

The exterior wood surface being refinished needs to be free of any dirt, grime, gray wood fibers, and any old deck stain or sealer. Even new wood needs to be cleaned to remove mill glaze and contaminants. For newer or grayed out wood we highly recommend using Restore-A-Deck Wood Cleaner. This two-step powder system is specially designed to clean and prepare wood for new stain.

 

For wood surfaces that have any old deck stains or sealers on them we recommend the Restore-A-Deck Stain Stripper. This product is designed to break down and soften transparent and semi-transparent wood stains so they can be washed away.

 

This process of cleaning or stripping the wood will ensure that the Armstrong Clark Wood Stain will penetrate the wood and perform properly. Use the simple to follow step-by-step instructions for either RAD product for properly prepping the wood surface.

Applying a new coat of Armstrong Clark Stain (maintenance coat) over an old coat is made easy. Prior to applying a maintenance coat of any Armstrong Clark Stain it is still important to clean the wood surface. It is not necessary however to remove the old Armstrong Clark stain, simply clean the surface using the RAD Wood Cleaner and any old Armstrong Stain that remains will bond with the new stain coat.

Following either the RAD Cleaner or RAD Stain Stripper is step two of the system. The RAD step two is a Wood Brightener that will counteract the causticity of the cleaner or stripper and will correct the pH level of the wood making it more acidic. This opens the pours of the wood and allows it to accept as much new stain as possible.

Once the exterior wood surface is ready following the prepping instructions allow 1-2 days for the wood surface to dry. With proper prepping you can expect the most from your new Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Stain. It will enhance the wood’s beauty and give you extended use for many years to come.

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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Alan R:
I saw the video of a guy using a nice brush head to apply his stain - what kind of brush head is that attached to the pole?

Soft bristle car wash brush.
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Type of brush head
I saw the video of a guy using a nice brush head to apply his stain - what kind of brush head is that attached to the pole?
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Quoting patricia:
south and east deck very weathered with some newer replacement boards/covered deck have hardly any wear. i used ben/moore arborcoat and last years coating is terrible. i understand from research that i'll have to sand off all in order to use your product??? also, the south logs are very damaged by sun-how much sanding needed??? will a plastic garden pump work for spray application? i'm new to this maintenance in hot sierras--thanks for the help

Yes you will need to remove the BM Arborcoat and to remove any sun damage. The AC should not be pump sprayed. Best to use an airless sprayer.
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log home owner
south and east deck very weathered with some newer replacement boards/covered deck have hardly any wear. i used ben/moore arborcoat and last years coating is terrible. i understand from research that i'll have to sand off all in order to use your product??? also, the south logs are very damaged by sun-how much sanding needed??? will a plastic garden pump work for spray application? i'm new to this maintenance in hot sierras--thanks for the help
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Quoting gardnvarcher:
I have a cedar fence, 7 years old, never stained, looks pretty good yet. I live in western Nevada, fairly dry and sunny. What is the best prep and stain for this fence?

Prep with the Restore A Deck Kit and stain with the Armstrong Clark in on of the semi-transparen t colors.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have a cedar fence, 7 years old, never stained, looks pretty good yet. I live in western Nevada, fairly dry and sunny. What is the best prep and stain for this fence?
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Quoting shilohbandana:
I used Armstrong Clark stain on a new deck two years ago with beautiful results. I am now ready to apply a maintenance coat of the same AC stain on the areas that are most exposed to the direct hot Tennessee sun. I understand that I need to use the RAD Cleaner first, but I am not totally clear as to whether I also should use the Brightener as well prior to restaining......can you please clarify this for me. Any other advice also welcome.... Thank you, i'm a big fan of your products ! Rob J.

Best to use both. Thanks!
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Prepping for maintenance coat
I used Armstrong Clark stain on a new deck two years ago with beautiful results. I am now ready to apply a maintenance coat of the same AC stain on the areas that are most exposed to the direct hot Tennessee sun. I understand that I need to use the RAD Cleaner first, but I am not totally clear as to whether I also should use the Brightener as well prior to restaining..... .can you please clarify this for me. Any other advice also welcome.... Thank you, i'm a big fan of your products ! Rob J.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting dennis:
just put stripper down on wet deck and waited 1/2 hour and tried pressure washer on it, not taking the old stain off

What stain brand and type of stain are you trying to remove? Feel free to reply to your email with a picture.
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just put stripper down on wet deck and waited 1/2 hour and tried pressure washer on it, not taking the old stain off
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Quoting moscarwhite:
Regarding my last question w/ the 1 year old deck with the mold:

1) should I use the RAD kit first and then pressure wash, or pressure wash the deck first and then use the RAD kit?

2) what can be done to prevent the mold so I don't have to repeat this process again next spring?

Thank you

!. Use the RAD while pressure washing.
2. There is a product called Wet and Forget that you can use after the stain dries. It should help.
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Prepping a deck with mold
Regarding my last question w/ the 1 year old deck with the mold:

1) should I use the RAD kit first and then pressure wash, or pressure wash the deck first and then use the RAD kit?

2) what can be done to prevent the mold so I don't have to repeat this process again next spring?

Thank you
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Quoting moscarwhite:
1 year old redwood deck was prepped w/ RAD kit at 4 months of age (last Sept) and stained w/ AC natural stain a few weeks later. The deck looked great for a few months - then the mold took over and covered the entire deck after the heavy rainy season in Northern CA this past winter. I plan to pressure wash the deck to remove the mold. I also plan to use RAD kit again before re-staining. I may also re-sand the deck if needed.
1) Does the deck need to be re-sanded?

2) What is the proper sequence for RAD kit, pressure washing, and sanding (if necessary)?

3)How long should I wait after pressure wash/RAD kit/ sanding before staining the deck?
Thank you.

1. Deck does not need to be sanded.
2. About 2 days.
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Prepping a deck with mold
1 year old redwood deck was prepped w/ RAD kit at 4 months of age (last Sept) and stained w/ AC natural stain a few weeks later. The deck looked great for a few months - then the mold took over and covered the entire deck after the heavy rainy season in Northern CA this past winter. I plan to pressure wash the deck to remove the mold. I also plan to use RAD kit again before re-staining. I may also re-sand the deck if needed.
1) Does the deck need to be re-sanded?

2) What is the proper sequence for RAD kit, pressure washing, and sanding (if necessary)?

3)How long should I wait after pressure wash/RAD kit/ sanding before staining the deck?
Thank you.
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Quoting jajmco:
Full sun exposure in Orange County NY. deck is cedar, what is the best staying to use? We are looking at the transparent and semi-transparent

When in full sun, the semi-solid would be best. Next best would be the sem-trans.
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Full sun exposure in Orange County NY. deck is cedar, what is the best staying to use? We are looking at the transparent and semi-transparen t
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Sanded surface
I have cedar decking and pressure treated railings. All surfaces have been fully sanded, do you recommend any pre stain treatments to these surfaces?
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Quoting Steve Frasca:
How does stripper work. After application with pump sprayer what is required to remove old stain, i.e., Cabot Australian Timber Oil? Is there scrubbing or sanding required or do you just wash off? Thanks. Steve

Apply the Stripper and pressure wash off. Rinse and apply the brightener. Rinse this after 10 minutes.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
How does stripper work. After application with pump sprayer what is required to remove old stain, i.e., Cabot Australian Timber Oil? Is there scrubbing or sanding required or do you just wash off? Thanks. Steve
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Quoting Carol W:
I sanded our ipe deck last year, then applied Penafin Marine Oil. I'd like to try the AC mahagony this year. Do I need to use the RAD stripper or can I just use the cleaner before the Brightener.
Thank you.

Use the stain stripper for the prep.
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I sanded our ipe deck last year, then applied Penafin Marine Oil. I'd like to try the AC mahagony this year. Do I need to use the RAD stripper or can I just use the cleaner before the Brightener.
Thank you.
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Quoting David Martin:
Is the stripper environmentally safe or will I risk killing the vegetation?

If you cover plants and rinse well when done, you should be okay.
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Is the stripper environmentally safe or will I risk killing the vegetation?
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Quoting David Martin:
I have been pressure washing (2000PSI at close range, about 25ft2/ hr) a Penofin coated cedar fence ( 1 coat on new wood 18 months ago). I am afraid of using any cleaner/stripper products because of the greenery along the entire fence line. I'd rather have a less than perfect finish than kill the roses. The wood looks and feels clean but I'm not sure if this will be enough. Your comments would be appreciated.

The Penofin does need to come off. If your method is not removing it completely, then use the Stripper.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have been pressure washing (2000PSI at close range, about 25ft2/ hr) a Penofin coated cedar fence ( 1 coat on new wood 18 months ago). I am afraid of using any cleaner/strippe r products because of the greenery along the entire fence line. I'd rather have a less than perfect finish than kill the roses. The wood looks and feels clean but I'm not sure if this will be enough. Your comments would be appreciated.
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Quoting Monika:
I have a new deck built a year ago. I would like to use your armstrong clark semi transparent stain on it. What do I need to do to prep it?
Thanks

Prep with the Restore A Deck Kit.
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I have a new deck built a year ago. I would like to use your armstrong clark semi transparent stain on it. What do I need to do to prep it?
Thanks
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Quoting Mark C:
Our porch has had several coats of penefin. Last year we pressure washed and then used a different oil product similar to yours, but was unhappy with the durability. Should I use the RAD cleaner or stripper before trying your mahogany stain?
Thanks

Use the RAD Stain Stripper for the prep.
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cleaner or stripper
Our porch has had several coats of penefin. Last year we pressure washed and then used a different oil product similar to yours, but was unhappy with the durability. Should I use the RAD cleaner or stripper before trying your mahogany stain?
Thanks
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Quoting Rob C:
I have a 3 year old cedar fence in Toronto and have used penofin yearly but not happy with the black (either tannin or mold) staining. I have used a cleaner to remove all of the black staining and then brightened. Some of the existing penofin is still present can I use your product overtop or does the penofin have to be stripped.

Needs to be stripped. Penofin is easily removed with the Restore A Deck Stripper and pressure washing. Brighten after.
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Re-staining Penofin
I have a 3 year old cedar fence in Toronto and have used penofin yearly but not happy with the black (either tannin or mold) staining. I have used a cleaner to remove all of the black staining and then brightened. Some of the existing penofin is still present can I use your product overtop or does the penofin have to be stripped.
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Quoting Kathy Catalano:
I have a redwood deck, and plan is to use your stripper/brightener and then stain. How long is it okay to go without staining after stripping/cleaning since deck will be exposed? How long does the stripper/brightener take to dry? How long does it take for shipping if I bought these products from you (i.e., stripper/brightener and stain)? Thank you.

Shipping depends on where you live. 2-5 days in the US. After preping, wait 2-3 days to stain.
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Quoting Sullivan Brown:
We just bought a house with an Ipe wood deck. It is grey, but in good condition. Can I just pressure wash it to prep for AC stain or do I need to buy a deck cleaner to prep it?

Using the cleaner with pressure washing will result in a better appearance and prep for the wood.
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I have a redwood deck, and plan is to use your stripper/bright ener and then stain. How long is it okay to go without staining after stripping/clean ing since deck will be exposed? How long does the stripper/bright ener take to dry? How long does it take for shipping if I bought these products from you (i.e., stripper/bright ener and stain)? Thank you.
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Quoting RogerGEwing:
Can I use a borate solution (BoraCare) on my deck prior to staining with AC semi-transparent stain in order to control algae/mildew growth? Thanks

The PDS says it creates a barrier for termites. This could also stop the stain from soaking into the wood grain. We would highly suggest a test area to make sure the AC is able to penetrated into the wood grain.
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Roger Ewing
Can I use a borate solution (BoraCare) on my deck prior to staining with AC semi-transparen t stain in order to control algae/mildew growth? Thanks
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Quoting Sandy:
New #1 western cedar deck installed 3 weeks ago. Contractor said cedar has been kept indoors and can be stained now. Do I need to prep or can I just stain? Just ordered 5 gal. of Rustic Brown.

You cannot stain it right away. See this article about new wood:

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new western cedar
New #1 western cedar deck installed 3 weeks ago. Contractor said cedar has been kept indoors and can be stained now. Do I need to prep or can I just stain? Just ordered 5 gal. of Rustic Brown.
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Quoting Donaldl.jennings:
I am installing new hardwood deck, supposedly Ipe but appears more like Garapa, hardwood but less dense. 1. Would sanding with 80 or 100 grit be advisable, or should I just clean it. 2. Do all four sides need to be sealed or just the top surface. 3. Would you advise waiting 2-3 months to seal or do at time of install?

Install and let sit for a few months. Prep with our Deck Cleaner, no need to sand. Stain the exposed wood only.
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I am installing new hardwood deck, supposedly Ipe but appears more like Garapa, hardwood but less dense. 1. Would sanding with 80 or 100 grit be advisable, or should I just clean it. 2. Do all four sides need to be sealed or just the top surface. 3. Would you advise waiting 2-3 months to seal or do at time of install?
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Yes, it does help to clean and brighten after sanding. We suggest not using a finer grit then 80. 60 is better as the stain will soak in deeper.
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Clean & Brighten After Sanding?
We are sanding our 2 y.o. cedar deck, built-in benches and fence, in order to remove junky Cabot stain (stripped twice, but did not remove it all.) Should we use RAD cleaner and brightener after sanding, and before staining? If so, how long do we need to let the wood dry before applying stain? We've had many days of rain lately and it's hard to find a three-day window of dry weather. Also, we would like to finish off the sanding with 50 grit on the fence, 80 grit on the benches and 60 (or possibly 80) grit on the deck. Do you foresee any problem with this? Deck will be stained with ST Cedar; fence and benches will be ST Rustic Brown. Thank you!
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Quoting Elaine Fischer:
Hello. I wanted to slap some AC on the worn spots on my cedar deck, which was stripped and treated with AC four years ago and touched up once since then. Is it too late now that we are into shorter days, damp nights? I'm not sure it's 100% dry.

As long as the wood is dry when you apply and the temps are above 55, you should be okay.
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How dry does my deck need to be?
Hello. I wanted to slap some AC on the worn spots on my cedar deck, which was stripped and treated with AC four years ago and touched up once since then. Is it too late now that we are into shorter days, damp nights? I'm not sure it's 100% dry.
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Quoting Dotsy29732:
I plan to use the RAD Cleaner & Brightner before staining my new KDAT deck floor. Can the prepping be done at one time, or does wood need to dry between the clean & brighten steps?
I read that only 1 coat of AC stain is recommended for KDAT wood, but read in AC Staining Instructions that if stain "penetrates within 30 minutes, another coat can be applied for added protection". Should I use 1 or 2 coats on new KDAT wood, in a full sun area?

Best to do the Brightener right after you are done with the Cleaner. Just 1 coat for new KDAT wood.
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Prepping Question
I plan to use the RAD Cleaner & Brightner before staining my new KDAT deck floor. Can the prepping be done at one time, or does wood need to dry between the clean & brighten steps?
I read that only 1 coat of AC stain is recommended for KDAT wood, but read in AC Staining Instructions that if stain "penetrates within 30 minutes, another coat can be applied for added protection". Should I use 1 or 2 coats on new KDAT wood, in a full sun area?
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See this about new decking:

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I have a new cedar deck that I would like to stain so it does not go to the gray color... I am looking at trying to keep the natural color as best I can. I ordered your samples and am liking the Semi Cedar color... With a brand new cedar deck am I doing the right thing trying to stain this or is it going to go to gray no matter what I do. Just looking for the best way to preserve the deck and try to keep a wood look versus the gray color. What steps, tips would give me the best results?
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Quoting LeEllen Phares:
We stripped and brightened our ipe deck with RAD 5 days ago. Stained with AC mahogany stain 3 days ago (no precip between). There wasn't any pooling but the area exposed to sun is still slightly oily and the area that is covered still has a thick oily residue. We didn't wipe because it didn't pool but it's still wet. Took one step onto covered deck and left shoe print so we wiped that area with a dry cloth and left a (barely) noticable lighter area. There will be 100 people on this deck in 7 days for a wedding. What do you suggest? Wipe with oil soaked rags? Thanks for any help

Try rising off the excess oil that did not penetrate with water. It should remove most. If you use rags as well, make sure to saturate any oil rags with water and lay flat to dry outdoors.
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No pooling but still "oily"; slick
We stripped and brightened our ipe deck with RAD 5 days ago. Stained with AC mahogany stain 3 days ago (no precip between). There wasn't any pooling but the area exposed to sun is still slightly oily and the area that is covered still has a thick oily residue. We didn't wipe because it didn't pool but it's still wet. Took one step onto covered deck and left shoe print so we wiped that area with a dry cloth and left a (barely) noticable lighter area. There will be 100 people on this deck in 7 days for a wedding. What do you suggest? Wipe with oil soaked rags? Thanks for any help
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Quoting Rose:
Hi, about those white and fuzzy patches after using the RAD kit- I'm wondering if sanding those spots down would be helpful before staining? I don't want to wet the wood as we want to stain tomorrow. What do you think?
Thanks! -Rose

You cannot spot sand just those areas. If you sand the entire deck, then you would show rinse the deck down with water after to remove sand dust.
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White & Fuzzies
Hi, about those white and fuzzy patches after using the RAD kit- I'm wondering if sanding those spots down would be helpful before staining? I don't want to wet the wood as we want to stain tomorrow. What do you think?
Thanks! -Rose
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Quoting Rose:
I just used the RAD cleaner and brightener last night on our (new but 4 months seasoned) red cedar deck. Now in the bright sunlight I see patches that appear white and other areas that are fuzzy. Are these normal or did I do something wrong. We hope to stain in another 36 hrs while we have a run of dry sunny weather. Thanks!

Fuzzies are related directly related to the oxidation of the wood cells. When the exposed wood oxidizes, the wood will start to turn white or gray. When you prep, you have to remove this layer of oxidized wood cells. This can lead to the fuzzy look you are referring to. Typically washing with higher pressure will reduce this. Many times you will not see this when stained as the stain colors will enhance the wood grain.
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RAD kits
I just used the RAD cleaner and brightener last night on our (new but 4 months seasoned) red cedar deck. Now in the bright sunlight I see patches that appear white and other areas that are fuzzy. Are these normal or did I do something wrong. We hope to stain in another 36 hrs while we have a run of dry sunny weather. Thanks!
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
No. Install the wood, let weather for 2-3 months and prep with a deck cleaner first. Just one coat of the Armstrong Clark and do not back wipe to remove any excess. The AC needs to soak into the wood and cure properly.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
We are planning to install a new ipe front porch. I read on another site to not clean the new wood, but instead to: lightly sand with 80-grit sandpaper, vacuum off dust, rub down with mineral spirits, then put finish on, rub off excess, and let boards dry out prior to installing. It was also recommended to stain all four sides before installing. Do you agree? Thanks.
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Quoting Christine J.:
Hello. We have a new deck which was installed 4 months ago. I have never sealed a deck before so doing my homework prior to prepping and staining. A couple of questions below - your response is appreciated.

1. Do you recommend sanding first, then applying the RAD wood cleaner? If so, how long do we wait after sanding until we can apply the wood cleaner? Note that we have a lot of "splinters" sticking out.

2. Do I only need 1 wood cleaner kit? I am assuming it depends on the size of the deck, but I have not seen specification on your website. Not sure if a kit will work on our 14x16 deck with stairs and railing.

Thanks!!

If you have splinters it would be best to use the Step 1 first, let dry and lightly buff the surface to remove the splinters with a sanding pad. Apply the Step 2 Brightener after and rinse well.

One kit covers about 750 sq feet or more for new wood.
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RAD Wood Cleaner
Hello. We have a new deck which was installed 4 months ago. I have never sealed a deck before so doing my homework prior to prepping and staining. A couple of questions below - your response is appreciated.

1. Do you recommend sanding first, then applying the RAD wood cleaner? If so, how long do we wait after sanding until we can apply the wood cleaner? Note that we have a lot of "splinters" sticking out.

2. Do I only need 1 wood cleaner kit? I am assuming it depends on the size of the deck, but I have not seen specification on your website. Not sure if a kit will work on our 14x16 deck with stairs and railing.

Thanks!!
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Quoting Doug Halley:
The interior of the contemporary house is entirely clear heart redwood. Built in 1980 it appears to have never finished with any products. The wood has faded in many areas and has become very dry everywhere but overall has retained very good color and has never grayed. It has been stained lightly in some areas from general household effects. We would like to apply transparent finish. What prep steps and product do you suggest? We will be tinting the floor to ceiling windows so I am not concerned about UV protection level of the stain, I really want to retain the natural aged redwood color.

Armstrong is an exterior stain that comes in tinted colors to protect with UV. The Natural is the lightest tint and will darken the grain some. Take inconsideration that this is an oil based stain meant to be applied outdoors. It can be used indoors, but you will need ventilation for the oil smell to dissapate.
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The interior of the contemporary house is entirely clear heart redwood. Built in 1980 it appears to have never finished with any products. The wood has faded in many areas and has become very dry everywhere but overall has retained very good color and has never grayed. It has been stained lightly in some areas from general household effects. We would like to apply transparent finish. What prep steps and product do you suggest? We will be tinting the floor to ceiling windows so I am not concerned about UV protection level of the stain, I really want to retain the natural aged redwood color.
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Quoting Brenda:
Are the instructions for prepping new deck wood also applicable to a new (fully exposed on one side) Glulam?
I have a Glulam beam, and two beam ends exposed to weather - is your transparent stain enough to protect them over the long term (repeated applications are expected over time)?

Yes you have to treat this as new wood. The semi-trans will give better UV protection over the transparents.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Are the instructions for prepping new deck wood also applicable to a new (fully exposed on one side) Glulam?
I have a Glulam beam, and two beam ends exposed to weather - is your transparent stain enough to protect them over the long term (repeated applications are expected over time)?
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Quoting ddichting:
We are re-staining our deck that I stained last August in transparent grey. Have addend new boards 6 months ago and want to have all blend in. Plan on using the clean kit before applying stain. How dry does the deck need to be before re-staining as rain in the afternoon is common in Atlanta this time of year.

48 hours after prep and rain for the wood to dry.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
We are re-staining our deck that I stained last August in transparent grey. Have addend new boards 6 months ago and want to have all blend in. Plan on using the clean kit before applying stain. How dry does the deck need to be before re-staining as rain in the afternoon is common in Atlanta this time of year.
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Quoting Oscar White:
I live in CA. I have a new redwood deck (1 month old). I lightly sanded the deck today to remove several paint stains left behind by careless painters. I am interested in your transparent redwood stain product. How long do you recommend that I wait (minimum wait time and optimum wait time) before prepping and staining the deck? Thank you

Please see this about new wood:

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Staining new redwood deck
I live in CA. I have a new redwood deck (1 month old). I lightly sanded the deck today to remove several paint stains left behind by careless painters. I am interested in your transparent redwood stain product. How long do you recommend that I wait (minimum wait time and optimum wait time) before prepping and staining the deck? Thank you
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Quoting Eric Normand:
I see different recommendation for the waiting period before applying the stain on new red cedar. Some say to apply it right away, other recommend 2-3 months before doing anything, other one year. Was is the good waiting period for a cedar deck in full sun with AC stains?

Thanks

Eric

See here:

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Waiting period for new red cedar
I see different recommendation for the waiting period before applying the stain on new red cedar. Some say to apply it right away, other recommend 2-3 months before doing anything, other one year. Was is the good waiting period for a cedar deck in full sun with AC stains?

Thanks

Eric
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Quoting Doug McCabe:
I used your product to stain my PT pine deck in 2010. I am going to stain again using your product in 2016. Question is: do I strip or simply clean as indicated above? I live in New England and my PT deck sees all types of weather. Thus, I am not sure if there is a lot of stain remaining on the surface. Any suggestions are appreciated. Also,many downsides to using one of your darker hardwood stains on my PT deck? My wife likes the colors. My original stain from 2010 was semitransparent. Thanks!

It would be best to prep with the RAD Stripper/Bright ener kit for this. As do the colors, the Hardwood colors are on IPE wood. They will not look like that on PTP. We do have samples for you test test on our site.
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Strip or Clean?
I used your product to stain my PT pine deck in 2010. I am going to stain again using your product in 2016. Question is: do I strip or simply clean as indicated above? I live in New England and my PT deck sees all types of weather. Thus, I am not sure if there is a lot of stain remaining on the surface. Any suggestions are appreciated. Also,many downsides to using one of your darker hardwood stains on my PT deck? My wife likes the colors. My original stain from 2010 was semitransparent . Thanks!
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Quoting Judd Sires:
I just finished staining my deck with Mountain Cedar semi solid with very good results. I should have gotten a color sample however because it just isn't what I was going for. Could I use a different color semi solid such as Oxford Brown as a "maintenance coat" in a year or two without a huge color variance?

You would have to remove and start over so it will show the proper color. Use the stain stripper we sell and pressure washing.
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I just finished staining my deck with Mountain Cedar semi solid with very good results. I should have gotten a color sample however because it just isn't what I was going for. Could I use a different color semi solid such as Oxford Brown as a "maintenance coat" in a year or two without a huge color variance?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Mike Andrews:
I have a 10 year old pine boat dock deck. It was treated with Thompson's Sealer about 5 years ago but it has almost completely worn off. What products do I need to re-store and re-finish this deck.

The Restore A Deck Stripper Kit for this. Stain with the AC after removal.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have a 10 year old pine boat dock deck. It was treated with Thompson's Sealer about 5 years ago but it has almost completely worn off. What products do I need to re-store and re-finish this deck.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Tim:
I see several answers where you say new decking (SPF or cedar) needs to season for 3-4 months, and also be cleaned with RAD Cleaner.

Is this because you are assuming the new wood is >15% moisture content, or are there other reasons the new wood should be seasoned before staining?
In other words, if my new lumber is kiln dried and has moisture content below 15%, and then I "clean" it, am I good to go, or do I still need to let it sit for several months before staining?

Wait 4-6 weeks for kiln dried wood and prep to remove the mill glaze with the RAD Kits. Just 1 coat for this.
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New Decking
I see several answers where you say new decking (SPF or cedar) needs to season for 3-4 months, and also be cleaned with RAD Cleaner.

Is this because you are assuming the new wood is >15% moisture content, or are there other reasons the new wood should be seasoned before staining?

In other words, if my new lumber is kiln dried and has moisture content below 15%, and then I "clean" it, am I good to go, or do I still need to let it sit for several months before staining?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting David kraft:
First we planed than we sanded with sand paper. The new 2x6s came out great. The new 4x4 posts turned black. The existing 2x12 was planed and then sanded. Looked like new, but it turned black or just real dark. Could it be that by the time we got to the 4x4s and 2x12s we were using the bottom of the stain can?

There is no black colorant in the stain so that is not possible. it is most likely one of these things:

1. Rust stains is black in wood. Was any steel wool used?
2. Tanin stains from the wood itself.
3. You over sand/planed the wood to the point that it "burned" the wood.
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First we planed than we sanded with sand paper. The new 2x6s came out great. The new 4x4 posts turned black. The existing 2x12 was planed and then sanded. Looked like new, but it turned black or just real dark. Could it be that by the time we got to the 4x4s and 2x12s we were using the bottom of the stain can?
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Quoting David kraft:
Just applied Armstrong oil base natural stain on new redwood and the color turned black. Same was true with newly sanded redwood. But, some came out just fine. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong.?

David kraft

The AC does not turn back so it has to be something else that is causing this. How did you prep and sand? What did you sand with?
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black redwood?
Just applied Armstrong oil base natural stain on new redwood and the color turned black. Same was true with newly sanded redwood. But, some came out just fine. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong.?

David kraft
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Richard Koenig:
I have cedar trim and garage doors on my home in Colorado. They were originally stained with a semi-transparent stain when the house was built 4 yrs.ago. The garage doors and areas facing south or west had to be redone 2 yrs. ago and need to be again. I am thinking of using your semi-transparent stain. What kind of prep will it need and how will it hold up to the elements here.

Thank you

Prep by using the Restore Deck Stain Stripper. apply and pressure wash off. Apply the Restore Wood Brightener. You should get a few years on vertical wood in your area.
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I have cedar trim and garage doors on my home in Colorado. They were originally stained with a semi-transparen t stain when the house was built 4 yrs.ago. The garage doors and areas facing south or west had to be redone 2 yrs. ago and need to be again. I am thinking of using your semi-transparen t stain. What kind of prep will it need and how will it hold up to the elements here.

Thank you
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Susan:
I have a very old 20+ year deck. the contractor came by and wants to sand it all down, and then use Sherwin Williams SuperDeck with a primer, which I am not at all interested in. Based on the reviews, and the fact that I will need a semi solid, Yours is the best choice.

My question is: is sanding an acceptable way to prep the deck with your product? It is old and in bad shape. if so, are there any additional steps prior to staining?

Thanks-
Susan

Over sanding can reduce the stain's ability to penetrate into the wood grain. If you sand, use 60-80 grit paper. After the sanding, use the Restore A Deck Kits for final prep. This will remove any sand dust and allow the stain to penetrate better.
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I have a very old 20+ year deck. the contractor came by and wants to sand it all down, and then use Sherwin Williams SuperDeck with a primer, which I am not at all interested in. Based on the reviews, and the fact that I will need a semi solid, Yours is the best choice.

My question is: is sanding an acceptable way to prep the deck with your product? It is old and in bad shape. if so, are there any additional steps prior to staining?

Thanks-
Susan
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Rose:
HI, I saw that you answered this question regarding someone who had kiln-dried red cedar decking and said that there is no need to do the underside or ends of the deck boards. Is this your recommendation for any cedar decking, whether or not kiln-dried?
Thanks!

Yes, no need to stain undersides.
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Staining the underside?
HI, I saw that you answered this question regarding someone who had kiln-dried red cedar decking and said that there is no need to do the underside or ends of the deck boards. Is this your recommendation for any cedar decking, whether or not kiln-dried?
Thanks!
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Daniel Druding:
My wife and I replaced all the 2x6 deck boards on our deck that are pressure treated. They are really wet so I thought I would wait until Sep. to apply your product. Correct tell me if this is the right thing to do. Also will I have to clean the new wood and if so what should I use to do this with?

Yes you need to wait and prep. See this about new decking and AC stains:
www.armstrongclarkstain.com/.. ./
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new boards on deck
My wife and I replaced all the 2x6 deck boards on our deck that are pressure treated. They are really wet so I thought I would wait until Sep. to apply your product. Correct tell me if this is the right thing to do. Also will I have to clean the new wood and if so what should I use to do this with?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Yves Leroux:
I will buy the RAD Cleaner to prepare my 10 months new cedar deck. With the RAD Cleaner, do i need to clean with pressure wash? or just apply the RAD Cleaner with water and broom/brush?

You will need to use a pressure washer or heavy scrub and rinse. Pressure washing is easier and faster.
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I will buy the RAD Cleaner to prepare my 10 months new cedar deck. With the RAD Cleaner, do i need to clean with pressure wash? or just apply the RAD Cleaner with water and broom/brush?
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Quoting Justin Morris:
I applied your Armstrong Clark transparent redwood stain to my 3 month old redwood deck a little over two years ago with little prep except brushing and hosing it off. The deck is a wrap around almost 750 SF, one area at the porch is covered and still looks great. The rest of the deck is in direct sunlight for more than half of each day and had faded badly by the end of the first summer. By this spring it is blotchy and starting to gray where the stain appears to have come off. We are in East Napa county and the climate is considered Mediterranean. My questions are what would we the best method for prep and what would be the best type of stain for my conditions? Thank you in advance, Justin!

It would be best to remove all since it is uneven and start over. Using the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper will do this. Apply and pressure wash to remove. Neutralize with the Wood Brightener after. The transparent colors will have less protection from UV damage than the semi-transparen ts. Semi-solid colors will offer even more protection. We would suggest moving to a semi-transparen t or semi-solid.
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Prep help
I applied your Armstrong Clark transparent redwood stain to my 3 month old redwood deck a little over two years ago with little prep except brushing and hosing it off. The deck is a wrap around almost 750 SF, one area at the porch is covered and still looks great. The rest of the deck is in direct sunlight for more than half of each day and had faded badly by the end of the first summer. By this spring it is blotchy and starting to gray where the stain appears to have come off. We are in East Napa county and the climate is considered Mediterranean. My questions are what would we the best method for prep and what would be the best type of stain for my conditions? Thank you in advance, Justin!
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Jan:
We had the mahogany stain applied to our IPE deck last year. I think they didn't follow the instructions because the color was very uneven. I'm going to put another coat on this spring. Do I need to use a special cleaner, or can I just use some soap and water before applying another coat?

Use our Restore A Deck kit for the prep. This will help to ensure a good surface for your new coating.
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We had the mahogany stain applied to our IPE deck last year. I think they didn't follow the instructions because the color was very uneven. I'm going to put another coat on this spring. Do I need to use a special cleaner, or can I just use some soap and water before applying another coat?
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Quoting Doug Such:
How long do you need to wait before you stain a new cedar fence?

Rough cut wood or smooth wood? Rough sawn can be stained right away. If smooth wood, see here:

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New cedar fence
How long do you need to wait before you stain a new cedar fence?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Clean and brighten for the prepping of the wood. Stain with the AC after a few days of drying. Look at the semi-trans or semi-solid colors.
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Sanded Deck
I installed a cedar deck last year, but was not satisfied with the stain I had put on it. I even sanded off the mill glaze before staining. Because of some cupping of the boards and the stain that was flaking off in places, I recently sanded off the cupping effect and the stain is gone too. With these conditions, what preparation and products do you recommend? Thanks,
Steve
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Quoting Sonya:
6 year old ipe deck. Used Cabot timber oil in Jaffa brown first year then 2 years later used low voc Cabot timber oil in mahogany flame as Jaffa brown no longer available. Do I need to strip deck prior to applying your mahogany product? If so, must I apply with pressure washer or can I use scrub brush with high pressure garden hose? Weather is unseasonably warm. Want to get a jump on this project. Thanks!

Yes you must remove the old stain first. Apply stripper with a pump sprayer then pressure wash off.
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Ipe deck
6 year old ipe deck. Used Cabot timber oil in Jaffa brown first year then 2 years later used low voc Cabot timber oil in mahogany flame as Jaffa brown no longer available. Do I need to strip deck prior to applying your mahogany product? If so, must I apply with pressure washer or can I use scrub brush with high pressure garden hose? Weather is unseasonably warm. Want to get a jump on this project. Thanks!
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Quoting Carl kling:
I bought rough cut oak boards for a new fence. Can I use your product on this project. Can I stain the board before I build the fence. The boards have been in my garage since they were cut 2 months ago.

Since it is rough cut you can stain now. Make sure the wood is clean and free of any dirt.
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I bought rough cut oak boards for a new fence. Can I use your product on this project. Can I stain the board before I build the fence. The boards have been in my garage since they were cut 2 months ago.
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Quoting Jean:
I'm a little confused. I was told that I do not need to prepare new shingles by a salesman at Armstrong. I am planning to put on Western REd shingles on a house in Maine. Please advise how to prep and the best product to use. I was advised no need for prep and semi-transparent oil would be best.

If I used transparent--what are the pros and cons?

If at some point I wanted to paint over with a primer and paint how would I need to prep and with what?

Thank you,

Jean

New cedar shingles are typically "rough cut" and do not need to be prepped to remove mill glaze that is on new smooth decking. Only reason to prep would be to remove dirt or remove oxidation/grayi ng. If you do not have either then you can go ahead and stain right away.

Transparent colors will fade faster then a semi-transparent.

If you decide to paint later on then you should strip off the AC and brighten the wood.
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I'm a little confused. I was told that I do not need to prepare new shingles by a salesman at Armstrong. I am planning to put on Western REd shingles on a house in Maine. Please advise how to prep and the best product to use. I was advised no need for prep and semi-transparen t oil would be best.

If I used transparent--wh at are the pros and cons?

If at some point I wanted to paint over with a primer and paint how would I need to prep and with what?

Thank you,

Jean
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Karen:
Hi there
We paid someone to stain our deck. It is great that they used your products but the deck was wet from rain on the day they applied. And it then rained again within 1-2 hours of the application. They came back to put another coat on; however there were puddles of water formed on the deck and wood appeared wet to me. I let them know I was concerned that the first coat did not cure properly. They assured me there was nothing to worry about.
Can you please advise about this?
Do you think we should put another coat on in the Spring?

Hard to say if there is an issue or not. I would not apply a coat now but wait and address the situation in the Spring.
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Question about stain application
Hi there
We paid someone to stain our deck. It is great that they used your products but the deck was wet from rain on the day they applied. And it then rained again within 1-2 hours of the application. They came back to put another coat on; however there were puddles of water formed on the deck and wood appeared wet to me. I let them know I was concerned that the first coat did not cure properly. They assured me there was nothing to worry about.
Can you please advise about this?
Do you think we should put another coat on in the Spring?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Olivia Fleming:
Our Cumaru decking was installed 11/2014; the contractor used Ipe oil on it. We're at a lake in N C and get a lot of sun. It has greyed since then. I understand that you suggest RAD wood cleaner and brightened.

Do we need to use a stripper to remove the Ipe oil? What happens if we don't?

Thank you.

Yes you should use the Stripper and the brightener for the prep. The Ipe Oil needs to be removed.
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Cumaru
Our Cumaru decking was installed 11/2014; the contractor used Ipe oil on it. We're at a lake in N C and get a lot of sun. It has greyed since then. I understand that you suggest RAD wood cleaner and brightened.

Do we need to use a stripper to remove the Ipe oil? What happens if we don't?

Thank you.
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Quoting Paul DiPirro:
I recently added an treated syp extension to both sides of my existing syp treated deck and I sanded the one year old paint from the existing deck. What do I use to prep it for staining and will the stain color be uniform because I'm combining 2 year old sanded wood with 6 month old new wood

New wood and older wood will stain differently when using the AC. The newer wood will be lighter in color. Prep all wood with with a deck cleaner and wood brightener first.
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I recently added an treated syp extension to both sides of my existing syp treated deck and I sanded the one year old paint from the existing deck. What do I use to prep it for staining and will the stain color be uniform because I'm combining 2 year old sanded wood with 6 month old new wood
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Quoting Alison James:
Hi, we just had a new redwood deck installed end of July in Eastern Washington State. Just 160 sq. ft. It faces south and will get a lot of sun. Seems like we should use a semi-solid stain for best UV protection? Which colors would you recommend for use on redwood to still enjoy the wood appearance? Also, timing -- our best calendar opportunity to apply a finish is mid-late September i.e. 6 weeks from now. (Work/seasonal issues.) Is that a long enough period to wait? Should we still use the cleaner first? Many thanks for your help!

Please see this about new wood:
www.armstrongclarkstain.com/.. ./

Just one coat.
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New deck - waiting?
Hi, we just had a new redwood deck installed end of July in Eastern Washington State. Just 160 sq. ft. It faces south and will get a lot of sun. Seems like we should use a semi-solid stain for best UV protection? Which colors would you recommend for use on redwood to still enjoy the wood appearance? Also, timing -- our best calendar opportunity to apply a finish is mid-late September i.e. 6 weeks from now. (Work/seasonal issues.) Is that a long enough period to wait? Should we still use the cleaner first? Many thanks for your help!
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Quoting Howie Hall:
Hi, I've used Armstrong semi transparent redwood color stain twice on our redwood deck. We love the color and the look, however on both occasions when someone sits on the wood the color of the stain comes off on their clothes. The first time I used the stain the problem didn't start for nearly 2yrs so I figured it was time to refinish. I did and this time it happened only 6mo. later. I've stripped and "revived" the deck using Superdeck products. The deck is 20yrs old and in great shape as I've refinished it every 2yrs or so. What am I doing wrong now?Thanks, Howie Hall

AC is a penetrating and fully curing stain, which means it should not do this. Did you "back wipe" the stain? You should not and this could create potential issues with the curing.
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deck stain
Hi, I've used Armstrong semi transparent redwood color stain twice on our redwood deck. We love the color and the look, however on both occasions when someone sits on the wood the color of the stain comes off on their clothes. The first time I used the stain the problem didn't start for nearly 2yrs so I figured it was time to refinish. I did and this time it happened only 6mo. later. I've stripped and "revived" the deck using Superdeck products. The deck is 20yrs old and in great shape as I've refinished it every 2yrs or so. What am I doing wrong now?Thanks, Howie Hall
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting wendy:
If I sanded an old deck to remove all old paint etc do I still need 1 -to use a stripper and neutralizer on it or
2-do I use a cleaner and neutralizer???

Not sure what y next step is?
Its old cedar with new replacements mixed in…I sanded it all…..

Just the cleaner and brightener kit as long as you have removed all of the old paint.
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sanding old deck
If I sanded an old deck to remove all old paint etc do I still need 1 -to use a stripper and neutralizer on it or
2-do I use a cleaner and neutralizer???

Not sure what y next step is?
Its old cedar with new replacements mixed in…I sanded it all…..
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting TerryM:
We have a two year old cedar deck (near Toronto). Last summer I used the RAD two-step cleaning system on the un-stained cedar and sanded the deck before applying two coats of the A&C Sierra Red Wood stain. This gave a pretty rich dark red wood colour. This summer, the deck was looking like it needed a cleaning and a maintenance coat (some of the stain was wearing thin). So I used the RAD cleaner and to my surprise a significant amount of stain came off the deck - it acted almost like a stripper. Any thoughts on why this may have occurred? Can I apply a maintenance coat of the same stain or should I be doing something else beforehand?

The RAD kit should be used when reapplying the stain. It is not a stripper but a very effective cleaner. It can remove stain sometimes if "thin". I would go ahead and finish the prepping and apply a coat of the same to the deck.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
We have a two year old cedar deck (near Toronto). Last summer I used the RAD two-step cleaning system on the un-stained cedar and sanded the deck before applying two coats of the A&C Sierra Red Wood stain. This gave a pretty rich dark red wood colour. This summer, the deck was looking like it needed a cleaning and a maintenance coat (some of the stain was wearing thin). So I used the RAD cleaner and to my surprise a significant amount of stain came off the deck - it acted almost like a stripper. Any thoughts on why this may have occurred? Can I apply a maintenance coat of the same stain or should I be doing something else beforehand?
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Quoting Charlie:
I have an old weathered deck with some grease stains from a grill and bird suet. What is the best way to prep the deck before staining? Will the RAD Stripper remove the grease?

Sorry but nothing will remove the grease stains completely out of the wood. It is in too deep. You can still clean and brighten the deck for regular prep then stain over the grease spots. It may blend a little better.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have an old weathered deck with some grease stains from a grill and bird suet. What is the best way to prep the deck before staining? Will the RAD Stripper remove the grease?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Cindy Browne:
Do you sell restore a deck products at your retail stores?

At our store in Bloomfield Hills, MI we do.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Do you sell restore a deck products at your retail stores?
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Quoting carla morgan:
I have applied a water proofing to deck. can I now apply the stain

You would have to remove the water proofer first.
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Quoting Chris Jones:
Hi, last fall I used your cedar seme-transparent stain to cover newly installed cedar deck boards. I am impressed with the finish, but we live under a lot of trees. There are some areas with surface mildew or mold. What is the procedure to prep these boards for a maintenance coat, thanks.

Use the Restore a Deck Kit and light pressure washing for your prep.
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Hi, last fall I used your cedar seme-transparen t stain to cover newly installed cedar deck boards. I am impressed with the finish, but we live under a lot of trees. There are some areas with surface mildew or mold. What is the procedure to prep these boards for a maintenance coat, thanks.
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Quoting Billymo:
I'm prepping my mahogany deck with your products. So far so good. There are a few small spots I need to hand sand. What grit sandpaper do I use on my mahogany deck?

60-80 grit paper.
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Sandpaper
I'm prepping my mahogany deck with your products. So far so good. There are a few small spots I need to hand sand. What grit sandpaper do I use on my mahogany deck?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Kevin Bartley:
I have a 7 year old Ipe deck that we have used multiple applications of Penofin for hardwoods. Love the color but hate how quickly it fades. Current finish is 2 years old and deck has turned gray and has dark areas in the exposed area and 50% of color in the covered area.Please recommend product and process for cleaning and preparing surface for an application of the Armstrong Clark Mahogany Stain for Hardwoods Thanks

Prep with the Restore A Deck Kit in the top menu.
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I have a 7 year old Ipe deck that we have used multiple applications of Penofin for hardwoods. Love the color but hate how quickly it fades. Current finish is 2 years old and deck has turned gray and has dark areas in the exposed area and 50% of color in the covered area.Please recommend product and process for cleaning and preparing surface for an application of the Armstrong Clark Mahogany Stain for Hardwoods Thanks
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Quoting Sharlene:
we had our deck stained with your product and it's still not dry. It looks dry, and if you touch it at first it feels dry but if you rub your finger you get a ton of stain on it. It's all over my shoes and I won't let anyone walk on it as it will track into my house !! When is it going to dry? Got stained 2 days ago...

Rinse off the excess oil by flooding the deck with water then rinsing.
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we had our deck stained with your product and it's still not dry. It looks dry, and if you touch it at first it feels dry but if you rub your finger you get a ton of stain on it. It's all over my shoes and I won't let anyone walk on it as it will track into my house !! When is it going to dry? Got stained 2 days ago...
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Quoting Jose negron:
So I plan to use the restore a deck cleaner and brightener on my one year old deck. After cleaning the deck do I need to wait for it to dry before brightening or can I go right into the brightening process once I wash off all of the cleaner?

Apply the brightener as soon as you are done with the cleaning. No need to let it dry.
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So I plan to use the restore a deck cleaner and brightener on my one year old deck. After cleaning the deck do I need to wait for it to dry before brightening or can I go right into the brightening process once I wash off all of the cleaner?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting larry:
Can I use this product for cedar shakes roof.

Yes you can.
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owner
Can I use this product for cedar shakes roof.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting anand.a.deshpande:
Quoting opwdecks:
Quoting anand.a.deshpande:
Hi,
Yesterday we applied a semi-solid stain to our house (exterior). The tone is too dark. I tried with sample earlier which were semi-transperant . We used (80% red-wood 20% cedar) together. Is there a way to tone the shade down?

Sorry but you cannot lighten or tone down a color. You can remove it and start over.


If I have to remove the stain which is very fresh will i have to use only power wash u recommend Stripper and then Wash

Yes you will need to Stripper and pressure washing to remove. Use the brightener when done.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting opwdecks:
Quoting anand.a.deshpande:
Hi,
Yesterday we applied a semi-solid stain to our house (exterior). The tone is too dark. I tried with sample earlier which were semi-transperant . We used (80% red-wood 20% cedar) together. Is there a way to tone the shade down?

Sorry but you cannot lighten or tone down a color. You can remove it and start over.


If I have to remove the stain which is very fresh will i have to use only power wash u recommend Stripper and then Wash
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting anand.a.deshpande:
Hi,
Yesterday we applied a semi-solid stain to our house (exterior). The tone is too dark. I tried with sample earlier which were semi-transperant . We used (80% red-wood 20% cedar) together. Is there a way to tone the shade down?

Sorry but you cannot lighten or tone down a color. You can remove it and start over.
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How to tone down the Stain
Hi,
Yesterday we applied a semi-solid stain to our house (exterior). The tone is too dark. I tried with sample earlier which were semi-transperan t . We used (80% red-wood 20% cedar) together. Is there a way to tone the shade down?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting sheryl baldwin:
We have sanded our deck taking the top layer off to smooth out the boards and get down to a healthier layer on the redwood prior to applying the semi-transparent. Do we still need to do any of the cleaner or brightener steps above?

Yes you should.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
We have sanded our deck taking the top layer off to smooth out the boards and get down to a healthier layer on the redwood prior to applying the semi-transparen t. Do we still need to do any of the cleaner or brightener steps above?
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Quoting william krejci:
I have a cedar deck that is approx. 6 months old. What should i do in prepping it for staining. Thanks!

Use the Restore A Deck Kit for the prep of the new wood.
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Mr.
I have a cedar deck that is approx. 6 months old. What should i do in prepping it for staining. Thanks!
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Gordon:
How long can the can of semi transparent stain sit around before it needs to be reshaken/mixed?
G

You always need to stir before using.
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How long can the can of semi transparent stain sit around before it needs to be reshaken/mixed?
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Quoting John Eisenbeil:
On a 25 year old deck with apparent moderate re-staining, 2 deck boards required replacing due decayed knot areas. The remainder are solid though weathered and cracked a little in spots. Is there a way to prepare the 2 new boards for staining so as the colors match somewhat, realizing the newer wood will absorb stain much differently than the old? I expect additional coats would create shiny spots.

You cannot get new wood to match old wood. They will be lighter in color not matter what.
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Mr.
On a 25 year old deck with apparent moderate re-staining, 2 deck boards required replacing due decayed knot areas. The remainder are solid though weathered and cracked a little in spots. Is there a way to prepare the 2 new boards for staining so as the colors match somewhat, realizing the newer wood will absorb stain much differently than the old? I expect additional coats would create shiny spots.
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Quoting Andreas Kanon:
What is your recommendation to prepare a new Redwood deck before staining it?

Let season for a couple of months and prep first with the Restore A Deck Kit.
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New Redwood Deck stain
What is your recommendation to prepare a new Redwood deck before staining it?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Chris Miller:
No, the wood is not rough sawn. It is brand new Western Red Cedar though. I wonder if I need to clean it and restore with Restore a Deck product or something else?

Wait a month to dry then prep with the Restore A Deck Kit.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
No, the wood is not rough sawn. It is brand new Western Red Cedar though. I wonder if I need to clean it and restore with Restore a Deck product or something else?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Chris Miller:
Hi,

I just bought 5 gallons of the semi transpartent Cedar staing from AC. I have a brand Western Red cedar fence installed a week ago. How long to I have to wait to stain it with AC?

Is the wood rough sawn? If so you can stain right away.
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Staining WRC
Hi,

I just bought 5 gallons of the semi transpartent Cedar staing from AC. I have a brand Western Red cedar fence installed a week ago. How long to I have to wait to stain it with AC?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting philip racicot:
I have a mahogany wood on my front porch that has been previously coated with a polyurethane/marine varnish coating what do I have to do to prepare this wood to use Armstrong Clark mahogany wood stain

You must sand all the poly off first before proceeding with using a penetrating stain like AC.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have a mahogany wood on my front porch that has been previously coated with a polyurethane/ma rine varnish coating what do I have to do to prepare this wood to use Armstrong Clark mahogany wood stain
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Kristy:
After you use the brightener, and wood pores are open what is the maximum time you can wait to stain the deck? If I can't get to it in 1-2 days?

A week or two should be fine.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Connie Lambert:
When prepping a deck with worn out semi transparent stain that will need stripping do I use the deck wash then the stripper and brightener or strip and brighten and then wash or skip the wash altogether if I'm stripping and brightening? Confused

You do not need the cleaner if you are stripping. Strip and brighten.
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max time between steps
After you use the brightener, and wood pores are open what is the maximum time you can wait to stain the deck? If I can't get to it in 1-2 days?
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Prep for semi transparent deck
When prepping a deck with worn out semi transparent stain that will need stripping do I use the deck wash then the stripper and brightener or strip and brighten and then wash or skip the wash altogether if I'm stripping and brightening? Confused
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Peter Reed:
Our new cedar deck has aged 3 months (southwest exposure, Bay Area). To test readiness yesterday I stained a leftover piece of decking. It soaked in and dried within 30-60 minutes, so I'm ready. Will the RAD cleaner and stripper remove construction marks and marks made from use of deck over past 3 months?

P.S. Stained piece of test wood looks great! Thanks!!

It will not remove the stamps on the mills. Use the cleaner and brightener for the prep. Not the stripper.
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new deck cleaning
Our new cedar deck has aged 3 months (southwest exposure, Bay Area). To test readiness yesterday I stained a leftover piece of decking. It soaked in and dried within 30-60 minutes, so I'm ready. Will the RAD cleaner and stripper remove construction marks and marks made from use of deck over past 3 months?

P.S. Stained piece of test wood looks great! Thanks!!
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting David Clayton:
I may have missed this but your tips talk of cleaning and brightening but do not mention sanding.

I have a cedar deck and have stripped off an old solid stain. Should I sand and then clean and brighten or the opposite order?

Also, is it possible to clean and brighten too much? I just ordered your RAD kit but have previously cleaned with a Behr product and am not impressed with the result, the surface is blotchy, s so am thinking to clean again.

If you want to sand it would best to do it before the cleaning and brightening. You cannot clean to much.
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Sanding and Cleaning
I may have missed this but your tips talk of cleaning and brightening but do not mention sanding.

I have a cedar deck and have stripped off an old solid stain. Should I sand and then clean and brighten or the opposite order?

Also, is it possible to clean and brighten too much? I just ordered your RAD kit but have previously cleaned with a Behr product and am not impressed with the result, the surface is blotchy, s so am thinking to clean again.
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thompsons water seal
I have a pressure treated deck that is 5 years old and I used Thompson's water seal on it. I now want to stain it a dark brown color to match my siding. I used Behr products to remove the water seal, both the stripper and the brightener. Do I have to do anything else before I can use your stain. Thank you, Mike
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting kathie:
curious…my Behr stain has chipped off after a couple of months…can i just sand the finish completely off…and then use your stain…i have available messmer's wood and deck cleaner as well as their brightener. however i am thinking i should use that after using your product when i want to maintain the deck down the line. I am thinking that your product will not make it so i will need to sand my deck again and that i will just maintain it by cleaning it and adding another coat of your product..is this correct?

After removing the sanding of the Behr you should use the Gemini Restore Kit as prep. You can clean and reapply down the road without sanding.
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deck refinish
curious…my Behr stain has chipped off after a couple of months…can i just sand the finish completely off…and then use your stain…i have available messmer's wood and deck cleaner as well as their brightener. however i am thinking i should use that after using your product when i want to maintain the deck down the line. I am thinking that your product will not make it so i will need to sand my deck again and that i will just maintain it by cleaning it and adding another coat of your product..is this correct?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Marty Zei:
installed pressure treated pine decking. how long before staining??

thanks

Wait 2-3 months after install. Clean and brighten with the Restore A Deck before staining.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
installed pressure treated pine decking. how long before staining??

thanks
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting ken morin:
Have applied a semi- transparent sample stain to an area of about 4x4. Should I use your stain stripper on it before applying one of your semi-transparent stains on the deck?

yes so it does not stand out. Brighten as well when done.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting George:
I have almost the same situation as the last poster. I will be reapplying your cedar stain over my fence which was last stained with your cedar stain 5 years ago. Some of the areas which I can't seem to get the stain off are a light cedar/tan color after cleaning the fence. Upon application of your cedar stain will the areas that cannot be cleaned off appear to be darker or blotchy or will they tend to blend in?

If using the same stain and color it should blend in.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have almost the same situation as the last poster. I will be reapplying your cedar stain over my fence which was last stained with your cedar stain 5 years ago. Some of the areas which I can't seem to get the stain off are a light cedar/tan color after cleaning the fence. Upon application of your cedar stain will the areas that cannot be cleaned off appear to be darker or blotchy or will they tend to blend in?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Have applied a semi- transparent sample stain to an area of about 4x4. Should I use your stain stripper on it before applying one of your semi-transparen t stains on the deck?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting jeffryku:
I'm in the process of re-staining my pressure treated deck. I've applied the RAD stripper, used a pressure washer to remove the old stain and used the brightener. However, I could not completely remove all of the old stain. How critical is it to remove 100% of the old stain? The old stain is SW Deckscapes oil based stain. The color I plan on using is similar, but different enough. I'm worried that the old stain may show through it some areas. After doing the 2-step prep process, the deck absorbs water even where there is some old stain. Do I still need to sand off the old remaining stain? If so, what method do you recommend for sanding?

Thanks

You want to shoot for 95% removal. If using a similar color than it should blend some.
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Stripping old oil based stain
I'm in the process of re-staining my pressure treated deck. I've applied the RAD stripper, used a pressure washer to remove the old stain and used the brightener. However, I could not completely remove all of the old stain. How critical is it to remove 100% of the old stain? The old stain is SW Deckscapes oil based stain. The color I plan on using is similar, but different enough. I'm worried that the old stain may show through it some areas. After doing the 2-step prep process, the deck absorbs water even where there is some old stain. Do I still need to sand off the old remaining stain? If so, what method do you recommend for sanding?

Thanks
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Quoting Mark:
I just finished staining my new redwood deck with A/C transparent redwood stain by mistake. I meant to use A/C semi-sierra redwood. It gets a lot of sun and faces West. What is the best option for re-staining? Can I apply the Sierra semi-redwood over the existing transparent redwood, or should I strip the transparent redwood and start over with the semi-sierra redwood? Alternatively, I could wait 12 months when it is time to reapply and start over. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Wait 12 months and apply the SR would be best and the easiest.
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Re-staining
I just finished staining my new redwood deck with A/C transparent redwood stain by mistake. I meant to use A/C semi-sierra redwood. It gets a lot of sun and faces West. What is the best option for re-staining? Can I apply the Sierra semi-redwood over the existing transparent redwood, or should I strip the transparent redwood and start over with the semi-sierra redwood? Alternatively, I could wait 12 months when it is time to reapply and start over. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
You can pre stain with Armstrong. Wood needs to be installed first, weathered for 2-3 months, than prepped with the Restore A Deck Kit. You only need to stain the exposed wood and there is not advantage to staining all sides before install.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
What would be the proper preparation for new cedar decking boards that are to be stained on all sides before installation?
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re: Stripping stain
Bob, it would be best to use the RAD Stripper followed by the RAD Brightener. You do not need the cleaner if you are stripping.
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Stripping stain
I stained my Ipe deck 2 years ago with a different product. The stain has faded but is not completely gone. I used the Restore-A-Deck kit prior to the first staining 2 years ago. I would like to use the Armstrong product but don't know if I can just use the RAD cleaner product I used the last time or if I have to strip it with the RAD stripping product. If I do need to strip it, after I use the Brightener, do I also need to use the RAD cleaner and brightener?
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
g. march,

Use the Restore A Deck Stripper, light pressure washing, followed by the brightener to achieve a consistent prep for the AC stain.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I stained my cedar fence 4 years ago and some parts are grey whereas other parts still look good. Based on this information which one of the cleaners/stripp ers would you suggest.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
Dan, either would work and best to get the two colors to test first to see what looks good for you. Best to remove the IPE Oil first with the Restore A Deck Stain Stripper.
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RE: Armstrong Clark Prepping Instructions
I have a new Ipe deck, built last fall. It was treated with Ipe Oil in late September, with the plan to re-apply a stain in the Springtime. The color is nice, but disappointingly "flat". I know these stains are not shiney, like Sikkens stuff, but I expected a bit more natural wood grain visible. I am thinking of switching to Armstrong Clark stain, either in Amber or mahogany. I really don't want to darken the wood, just show it's natural rich Ipe hues.

Could you advise on which of your 2 colors would be preferable, and also how best to prep the wood after the Ipe oil treatment to best show the AC stain. I also plan to order samples of the 2 AC stains.

Many Thanks!
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