Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Deck Stains

Armstrong Stain Color Help and Tips

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Armstrong stain offers a wide variety of color choices in an oil based semi-transparent penetrating formula. It should be noted that with any brand of wood stain, colors cannot be guaranteed. Colors and tones can vary depending on the wood type, the age of the wood, the condition of the wood, wood prep, and stain application.

Armstrong stain colors currently include Natural Tone, Cedar Tone, Redwood Tone, Cedar Semi, Sierra Redwood, Rustic Brown, Mountain Cedar, Sequoia, Woodland Brown, Oxford Brown, Mahogany, Amber, and Driftwood Gray.

Armstrong Clark Stain Color Help

As a general rule, the lighter the color, the more transparency it will have. This means that more of the wood’s natural grains will show through, which can have an influence on the final appearance. Darker colors will reflect more of the actual stain color but will still allow some of the wood grain to show through because it is a semi-transparent finish.

It is also worth mentioning that the darker the color the more resistant it is to UV fading. Darker colors have more pigment, which is what resists harmful UV rays. Lighter colors, will still provide adequate sun protection but not as much as the darker stain tones.

To be exactly sure how a certain Armstrong color will look on your wood surface, you can order a color sample. Apply the Armstrong color sample in an inconspicuous spot. Allow the stain to dry for several days to see the finished result. Order as many Armstrong color help samples as you would like. It is a good way to find the right color for your wood surface. There is nothing worse than staining a whole wood structure only to decide you do not care for the color.

With so many factors determining how a particular Armstrong color will look in its final appearance, it is wise to use the color help samples to find the tone you like. You should only need the Armstrong color help initially. Once the deck is stained you can keep it maintained with the same color unless you decide to change colors at some point.

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Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago

Three years ago I used a Semi-Transparent (Chestnut). I’m considering using a Semi-Solid this go round. Would I simply need to use the RAD Stripper/Brightener and then get to staining or would I need to do additional prep?

Do the Semi-Solids require multiple coats?

Thank you in advance!

Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Nathan

Strip and Brighen for prep are correct. Typically one coat but sometimes two as it varies on wood age.

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7 months ago

Can I mix the ac natural tone with the ac driftwood to get a lighter shade of driftwood

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Admin
7 months ago
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You can mix colors but the natural is not clear. It is a tinted color.

Patrick
Patrick
7 months ago

Can I mix your Armstrong natural tone with driftwood to get a lighter grey stain

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8 months ago

My house is constructed with Sing Core manufactured pine logs. The previous homeowners stained it with Pittsburgh Ultra Advanced Stain & Sealant In One, Semi-Transparent 716 Cedar NaturalTone (see attached photo of can). It is an Acrylic Oil Formula (whatever that means). We are not big fans of the orange color. I’ve also included two photos of the house, including one of the neglected west side that desperately needs some attention. We would like to restain our house with a Semi-Solid, but are unsure how to prep for restaining and what results to expect with a color change. Will prepping set us up to use any color, or will the existing color present a problem? Will subsequent restaining eventually fix the color? I’m inclined to go with the Mountain Cedar, which looks like a yellow-leaning brown, but not sure how well it will go over the existing stain. My wife is more inclined to go with either the Espresso, which looks like a black-leaning brown, or the Oxford Brown, which looks like a gray-leaning brown. I’d rather the house not be so dark, except for the trim and window frames, so that’s why I’m inclined to go with the Mountain Cedar. Your thoughts?

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Admin
8 months ago
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You have to remove all the prior stain down to the bare wood when switching. This will entail stripping and sanding to get it all off. Once that is done, you can use any color that you like.

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8 months ago
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Thank you. I will also need matching caulk for the joints. How do find caulk to match the stain?

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Admin
7 months ago
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Just go to a paint store and find one that is close in color. 

Steve
Steve
9 months ago

Hello, I used Deckwise Ipe Oil on a front porch Ipe deck and although I liked the initial color I’m not entirely impressed with the longevity due to a relatively quick transition to faded grey.  For a different project, I’ve just sanded a rear PT pine deck to remove an old and peeling semi-solid coating and partially coated one board with some remaining Deckwise Ipe Oil.  I like the Deckwise transparent stain color / oil richness on the PT pine although would prefer to use your product.  What would you recommend for an Armstrong color that is similar to the Ipe Oil and what level of transparency would you recommend??  (Looking at your color card, the Natural Oak or Amber look the closest to the Ipe Oil on my PT decking. The card does not say how transparent the Amber is.)  If helpful, we’re not high elevation, about five miles from ocean in Maine, and the deck receives sun for half the day.  Thanks!

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Admin
9 months ago
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Use a semi-transparent color. Natural Oak would be closer to the brown color of the IPE Oil. Amber is more golden. 

Steve
Steve
9 months ago
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Great, thanks!

CONNIE
CONNIE
10 months ago

Trying to match a deck color with the Sequoia posts. Any suggestions?

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Admin
10 months ago
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Try Sequoia semi-solid or Sierra Redwood semi-transparent. Make sure to prep first.

Eric
Eric
1 year ago

If I decide to apply 2 coats on a newer pressure treated pine deck (~1.5 years old) that has never had a stain before, how long should I wait between coats?

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Admin
1 year ago
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Second coats are applied wet on wet. 20-60 minutes after the first coat.

Mary Duperre
Mary Duperre
1 year ago

Can you use the mahogany stain on a newer pressure-treated wood deck? If so would it be like a semi-solid or a semi-transparent?

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Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Mary Duperre

See this about new wood: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

The Mahogany is a semi-transparent stain. 

Mary
Mary
1 year ago
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I ask because the mahogany stain is for hardwoods. Will it work the same on pressure treated? Will the pressure treated wood be darker, soak in more so to be more like a solid stain?  Also my deck is five years old but has no stain on it. Do I treat it as a new deck? 

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Admin
1 year ago
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No, the wood type does not dictate the transparency. It will be semi-transparent. Not new at this point.

Mary
Mary
1 year ago
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Thank you! 

Sara
Sara
1 year ago

Hi, I am planning to stain two unfinished pine adirondack chairs with AC semi-transparent stain. Before i had picked out the stain, I sanded one of the chairs with a medium and then fine sandpaper. I now know I shouldn’t sand them and need to let them weather, etc, before staining. The one chair that I sanded, should I sand it with rough sandpaper in an attempt to reverse what I did? Thanks!

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Admin
1 year ago
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You cannot reverse the sanding.

Wally
Wally
1 year ago

pressure treated wood

Jerry
Jerry
1 year ago

What is a good stain semi-solid color for redwood siding?

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Admin
1 year ago
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Any color of the semi-solids will work. If not sure, try some test samples here: 

https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/samples

David Gibbons
David Gibbons
1 year ago

Hi,
I’m working on a pergola project. To make it work structural, I needed to use Alaskan Yellow Cedar glue lambs for the posts and main beams. Everything else is Western Red Cedar. All are Re-Sawn. The woods are different colors and the AYC  is harder and does not absorb  the stain as  well. I am thinking about using the Rustic Brown  on the softer WRC and a 50/50 mix of the Rustic Brown and Oxford Brown on the AYC. Is there any issue mixing the two products?
Also, the AYC is dry and re-sawn. The WRC is not dry and is also re-sawn. Is there any need for any prep on either wood?
Thank You,
Dave  408.640.2615

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Admin
1 year ago
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No issues mixing. You have to weather and prep the wood: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

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1 year ago

I have a large outdoor shed built with T-111 Fir Siding. It has been stained with Benjamin Moore water based semi transparent stain 10 years ago. Really needs restaining…How should I prepare the siding for staining with AC semi Transparent Sierra Redwood stain?

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Admin
1 year ago
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You will have to remove the BM stain fully first. For help with this, post some pictures in the comments.

El
El
1 year ago

We are planning to use the transparent or semi-transparent stain on this 60 year old cedar porch which was originally painted but subsequently stripped, sanded, and treated with Olympic Maximum Transparent coating for several years.  The edges, which are exposed to the elements due to wind, sun, etc. are worn and the boards are separating.  The middle is in fairly good shape but also probably retains more old coating.  
Do you recommend your Restore A Deck Stripper, sanding, or both?  The boards have been sanded many times and will likely withstand only light sanding with a hand sander.
Thank you!

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Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  El

RAD Stripper with both additives: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper/restore-a-deck-stripper-additives
Sand after if needed to remove any stain that does not strip off. Brightener last.

Rex Barton
Rex Barton
1 year ago

Do you offer a solid color stain for older decks?

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Admin
1 year ago
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We do not but we do have semi-solid colors and those work great for older decks.

DaveH
DaveH
1 year ago

For a previously unstained PT deck (2 years old) do you still recommend restore-a-deck?

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Admin
1 year ago
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Yes, that is correct.

Reianon
Reianon
2 years ago

Can I use mineral spirits to remove excess stain after 24 hours? Used semi solid stain on pressure treated pine 

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Admin
2 years ago
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Yes, make sure to saturate all oil rags in water and lay flat to dry outside.

Clark
Clark
2 years ago

We are installing new redwood vertical shiplap siding on a cabin in a couple of weeks.  Rough, kiln dried.  I’d like to use a stain and darken the redwood, but not lose all of the grain.  Would you recommend one of the semi-transparent stains like rustic brown or chestnut to use on new redwood?  Also, do you recommend pre-treating the backsides and ends before installation with the same stain selected for the front/exposed side, or do you recommend something else?

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Admin
2 years ago
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Yes, any semi-transparent color that you like will work for this. No need to pre-treat the backsides, just the exposed wood after install.

Vince
Vince
2 years ago

Do the hardwood stains offer as much UV protection as the semi-solid stains?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Vince

No, more pigment equals better UV protection.

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2 years ago

I’m going to order 4 samples to try on our new Western red cedar deck. I’m thinking semi-transparent or Hardwood/IPE colors but need to know which not to order if I want to avoid any with an orange and/or red tint. Also, not the Driftwood. 

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Admin
2 years ago
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See here about new wood: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain
Mahogany will be red on Cedar and Amber more orange. Try Rustic Brown or Natural Oak instead.

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2 years ago
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what about chestnut and cedar? do they also appear red or orange on cedar? thanks.

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Admin
2 years ago
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Depends on the age of the wood. Older wood will be darker while new wood will be lighter.

Carolyn Pendry
Carolyn Pendry
2 years ago

My redwood deck was stained about 3 years ago with Redwood Tone, my store had none in stock.  It has some areas that were scraped off to raw wood, lighter than the stained areas. I bought Sequoia, but it is a bit too red. I wouldnt mind it to be more transparent if that would not show too much contrast between the old stained wood and the wood where the stain has been rubbed off. I would like a more brown or golden color. Do I need to strip or can I just pressure wash deck?

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Admin
2 years ago
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Strip and brighten for prep is best here: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Denise Zitzmann
Denise Zitzmann
2 years ago

I have semi solid stain on my cedar deck.  It is another brand other than AC.  How do I determine if I need to use the additives to the stripper?  I want to order everything all together, Stain, stripper and brightner and if any additives (gel or Booster).  I will be using a semi solid stain again.

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Admin
2 years ago

Post some pictures of the deck and what brand is the current stain?

Denise Zitzmann
Denise Zitzmann
2 years ago
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Here are a few current photos of my deck

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Admin
2 years ago

Use both additives.

Denise Zitzmann
Denise Zitzmann
2 years ago
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I forgot to tell you stain is either Sikkens or SuperDeck.  And so I am using the booster and the gel on my deck, is that correct? 

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Admin
2 years ago

Yes, both with the stripper.

Denise Zitzmann
Denise Zitzmann
2 years ago

If I am using a semi-transparent this summer and need to stain it in 2-3 years with the semi-transparent stain, do I have to strip it before reapplying.  Or just clean and brighten.  And is it the same when reapplying the  Semi-solid stain?

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Admin
2 years ago

Clean and brighten for all AC stains.

James
James
2 years ago

Can I go from semi transparent to semi solid without stripping

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Admin
2 years ago
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Best would be to strip and brighten to ensure the new coating soaks into the wood fully.

Sandra
Sandra
2 years ago

Is it possible to get a color chart mailed to me? I would like to hold it up to my vinyl siding to see what looks

best.
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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Sandra

We do not send out color charts as they are not any different from what you see on the computer. Final colors will always vary as well based on wood type, age of the wood, application, and prep. This is why we offer a sample program as well.

doug R
doug R
2 years ago

Im building a new deck 12 x 14 with pressure treated pine. The deck is 8 ft above ground, I would like the bottom and top to both be stained. I have dried the wood for 2 months on the driveway thinking I could stain both sides then install but seems like you are recommending waiting a year before staining. Any advice on how to stain both sides if I build the deck then stain in place next summer.

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Admin
2 years ago
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See here about new wood: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

You cannot prestain so you will have to wait and prep after you install the wood. There is no reason to stain the underside outside of appearance. If you still want to stain it, just clean and stain from below with ladders.
C Maio
C Maio
2 years ago

It did not post correctly, sorry. The local store did not advise to wait and we took in a sample of the wood from the benches. So where can I go from here to correct the issue?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  C Maio

Sorry but as we said, it will not dry correctly unless you weather and prep the wood. It states on the container to let new wood weather and be prepped.

C Maio
C Maio
2 years ago
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Actually Western Red Cedar is NOT supposed to be aged or weathered according to the lumber industry. Most woods, yes, but not WRC. It is to be treated right away.

So how do I stop the pigment from continuing to rub off? Will another wiping with paint thinner work or will I have to coat with something else? You mention prepping the wood, how do I prep it from here forward? I am trying to fix it and would appreciate advice from that perspective.

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Admin
2 years ago
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They are 100% wrong as they also do not know how individual stain brands work to cure and dry. All stain brands including Armstrong Clark will suggest a waiting period and prep before staining on cedar and other wood types.

The only way to fix the ruboff is to strip off the AC stain, let the wood weather correctly, prep, and then apply one coat.
AC cannot be top coated with something else.
C Maio
C Maio
2 years ago

I purchased Western Red Cedar benches for a local park and stained “liberally” with the cedar tone stain as instructed by our local store. The color was still coming off to the touch 2 weeks later so we wiped them down with paint thinner to remove excess. Now, almost a week later from the wiping, the color still rubs off when wiped gently with a paper towel. I cannot install them like this! It is my Eagle Scout project and we would like to install before the weather turns (New England). Any advice on getting the color to set?

The bench manufacturer did not send any advice on timing for aging the wood, they could have been purchased finished so I don’t think it was on the wood, but it was new, unaged wood.
Thanks.

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  C Maio

You cannot stain new wood like this. Has to weather and be prepped. See here for info: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

C maio
C maio
2 years ago
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The local store did not advise to wait and we took in a sample of the wood from the benches. So where can I

Joan
Joan
2 years ago

I just applied your Mahogany IPE oil stain on my 25 year old mahogany deck (never stained, only water sealed which I power washed off and prepped). The color is very orange/red. I probably should have mixed the IPE dark walnut with mahogany before staining. Any harm in applying a second coat now with the darker color to achieve a deeper red brown color? I don’t mind the extra work, just don’t want to harm the wood.

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Admin
2 years ago
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The wood will not be able to take another coat. You can always prep and redo next year to change the color.

Mike
Mike
2 years ago

I stained my deck in 2 phases. The second phase was finished the following day- late morning.

There was no rain during the time between and the unstained portion of the deck remained clean and dry before being completed.

i used the semi solid woodland cedar. For some reason the portion that was done the second day looks more like a semi transparent. The stain used was all from the same 5 gallon container and stirred thoroughly both times. What could explain the difference?

I even put a second coat on the more transparent section but it didn’t make a huge difference.

Vicki
Vicki
2 years ago

I am so happy I found your website. I have an Exotic Brazilian Wood Deck. It was a beautiful rich luxurious color when we installed it, and remained so for many years. I would like to restore it to its original appearance. I like both your semi-transparent Chestnut and your Sierra Redwood shown on your website. I do like a light sheen or wet look. What do you recommend to restore it’s original luxurious color with a little sheen? Thank you, Vicki

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Admin
2 years ago
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You will need one of the three hardwood colors fro your wood type: Amber, Mahogany, or Black Walnut. The other colors will not work for hardwoods. AC stains all come in a non-shine (no gloss) formula. Adding any coating to a deck that has a sheen/gloss will result in peeling.

Cindy
Cindy
2 years ago

What do I do about a color stain that is too dark after one coat? Can I send my unopened stain back for another color?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Cindy

You would have to strip and brighten to remove and start over. See here about returns: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/refund

linda
linda
2 years ago

My deck is about twenty years old and about 2400 square feet. I have been sanding it and the cedar turns a gray shade after a while. I want to see the grain. Will the deck return to the cedar color with a semi transparent cedar stain or am I better off using the driftwood color?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  linda

After sanding, restore the color with the Cleaner and Brightener Kit: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Once that is done you can use any color of AC that you like.

Debbie
Debbie
2 years ago

Do you have to use the 3 hardwood options only for a hardwood? Like Massaranduba? Or do your semi transparent stains work for hardwoods?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Debbie

Yes, only the hardwood colors for your wood type.

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2 years ago

Hi,
New mahogany decking –
Do you have a product that is basically like a clear coat?

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Admin
2 years ago
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Clear with no tint means it will gray naturally in months. It must be tinted for UV protection. https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/wood-and-decking-stains/hardwood-and-ipe-stain

See here about new wood as well: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

Chloe
Chloe
2 years ago

I have a new cedar fence — 170 sq. feet. It’s rough sided and I want to stain & protect one side. How long should I wait before staining? Is there any prep I need to do before applying AC? i assume one gallon will do for 170 sq. feet for one coat, but on a new fence, does one typically use one coat or do I need two coats? Thanks.

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Chloe

If rough sawn wood you can stain now. About 1-2 gallons for the two coats applied wet on wet.

Chloe
Chloe
2 years ago
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Thanks!

mark
mark
2 years ago

I am installing a tigerwood deck, but would like to mute the color to a silver grey, such as your drift wood stain. Would this work on such a boisterous color? Thanks

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Admin
2 years ago
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Sorry but no, that will not work for an exotic hardwood.

Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts
2 years ago
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Thanks. Could I go the other way and deepen the color with Mahogany? Maybe end up with a nice Cabernet?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Roberts

You can only use one of the 3 hardwood colors for this. Mahogany would work.

Larry Pitts
Larry Pitts
2 years ago

I’m considering using Natural Oak stain on cedar siding. I find I like the color better when thinned with mineral spirits. Comments?

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Admin
2 years ago
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Not a good idea as it will reduce the ability to protect your deck.

Eric
Eric
2 years ago

We have a cedar deck with full sun half the day and shade half the day. Pretty hot and humid in summer too with a pretty harsh winter. Any recommendations for stain type? We would like a darker color. Also what sealant would you recommend?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Eric

See here about new decks: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/new-decking-and-armstrong-clark-stain

Any color you like will work after the wait, prep, and stain. Most use Semi-transparent colors. You can never apply a sealer over a deck stain and there would be no need as well. Deck Stains are sealers as well.

Karl
Karl
2 years ago

can you custom blend semi solid colors? Im looking for something in between the woodland brown and the amber, I tried the semi trans cedar and like it, i just need more of a solid color to cover existing old stain.

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Karl

We do not custom blend colors but you can mix two colors together on your own. Also, you cannot apply the AC over a different brand of stain. You will have to remove that first.

Terry S
Terry S
2 years ago

Can you provide any examples or even photos of blending stain colors together?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Terry S

Sorry but no, we do not have examples of blended colors. You can get samples from out site and test on your end.

Gil Sanchez
Gil Sanchez
2 years ago

I have a redwood deck which I want to stain, which of your stains would you recommend?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Gil Sanchez

Any color that you like would work well for your wood. Most use the semi-transparent colors.

Marci
Marci
2 years ago

Previous owner used Thomsons water seal over stain that was fading/peeling. Color is now very patchy but still seems to be sealed (water beads on deck when wet). A contractor suggested I could apply Armstrong Clark over the water seal without stripping? Can you confirm and if so, how should I prep it? I just want to add color so it’s got a more uniform look.

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Marci

No you cannot do this. You to must be stripped and then brightened.

Mike Stebbins
Mike Stebbins
2 years ago
Reply to  Marci

Thomspon’s is mostly wax. Stain will not penetrate thru it. You’ll have to strip the Thompson’s off chemically. Sanding just mixes the wax into the sanded surface giving really spotty results with any new stain.

Debbie
Debbie
2 years ago

Is there any way to get Massaranduba wood the color of your Rustic Brown? The previous owner did not treat the wood at all, and it has greyed a LOT. I’ve been using a belt sander to bring the wood back to it’s natural color, which is a deep red, but I want it more brown vs red. Any suggestions?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Debbie

Use this for prep while pressure washing: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Then stain after with Mahogany or Black Walnut color.

Lee Schilling
Lee Schilling
2 years ago

If I use AC in black walnut on IPE deck, what would be prep (other than cleaning) before reapplying next year? would it need to be stripped?

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Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Lee Schilling

Deck cleaner and pressure washing for prep.

Dorothy
Dorothy
3 years ago

Do You ship 5 gallon of rustic brown to Ontario Canada? And is shipping free too?

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Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Dorothy

Shipping is not free to Canada. For the cost, add to cart and enter your shipping info for the total cost to ship there.

Debra Osse
Debra Osse
3 years ago

Do you have any suggestions as far as a brand of wood putty / filler that can be used prior to staining? I used some putty that claimed to be able to be painted or stained, but the stain took very poorly to it and it looks awful. Thanks!

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Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Debra Osse

No, a wood filler will not work on a deck or exterior wood and will never stain to blend.

Debra Osse
Debra Osse
3 years ago
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Oh no….do you have any suggestions short of replacing the entire board? If I put some stain on it quite heavy, it seems to cover it, but I suppose if I left it on really thick in that one area it would dry glossy??

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Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Debra Osse

No, that will not work. You would have to leave it as is or replace the board.

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3 years ago

Do you have anymore pictures of driftwood? Only saw 3 images in the gallery.

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Admin
3 years ago
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We do not.

Carol Moates
Carol Moates
3 years ago

What is the best stain for an old deck.. 26 years old?

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Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Carol Moates

Look at one of the semi-solid colors.

JW
JW
3 years ago

It rained so the pix looks a bit splotchier than it really is. No chipping just fading.

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