Armstrong Clark Oil Based Wood Deck Stains

New Decking and Armstrong Clark Stain

by Administrator

Armstrong Clark is a penetrating oil based stain that will soak deep into the wood grain offering protection from UV graying and water. The advantages to a penetrating deck stain is that they will not peel but rather fade over the years. The key though is proper prep before applying your AC especially if your wood is new.

New “smooth” wood should not be stained right away with Armstrong Clark. A few things need to happen first:

  • The wood should dry out in the climate
  • Exposed layers of wood cells should oxidize slightly
  • Mill glaze needs to be removed
  • Prep after waiting will remove both oxidation and mill glaze

New Decks and Armstrong Clark Stain Tips

The best advice is to not stain your new smooth wood too soon after install but follow these steps:

  1. Install wood and let sit outside for 3-4 months or more if using a transparent or semi-transparent color. If using a semi-solid color, you should wait 12 months.
  2. Once the wood has been exposed, use the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brightener Kit for prep.
  3. Let the wood dry for 2 or more days after prep.
  4. Apply 1 coat of the Armstrong Clark Stain. Do not over apply.

To maintain your new coat of AC you will most likely need to a light coat in 12-24 months to just the floors or horizontals surfaces. In the future, you will need to reapply AC every 2-3 years for most scenarios or as needed based on your particular traffic and weather.

Important Note: Rough Sawn cut wood can be stained right after install as long as the wood is clean and dry.

How to Calculate Square Footage

Deck Sq. Footage

Flooring Length x width =?

Railing Length x height =?

Steps Width x Depth x #of Steps =?

Add up all 3 for the Total Sq. footage.

Fence Sq. Footage

Length x height =?

Multiply x 2 for both sides = Total Sq. Footage

Coverage Rate for AC Stains

The specified coverage rate for Armstrong Clark is 150-300 square feet per gallon for the first coat on new wood. From this, and from measuring the surface you can calculate how much stain you need. For more aged wood you could easily factor in some extra stain. On newer wood that is still smooth and dense, you probably are not going to use as much.

Note: Hardwood Decking spreads about twice as far. 300-400 sq feet per gallon and only 1 coat.

For maintenance coats you are not going to use near as much stain as you did initially staining bare wood. There are just way too many variables to know the exact coverage rate. There is really no way of knowing exactly how much stain you will need. It is better to buy more than you need than to not have enough. You can always save left over stain for next time. Armstrong Clark has a shelf life of 1 year if opened and 3 years unopened as long as the can is properly resealed.

If you have a question on prepping your need wood or deck, feel free to ask below.

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Eddie K
Eddie K
1 day ago

Once again. Armstrong Clark proves to be the gold standard in my opinion. Doing the deck is a big job, but when you follow directions strictly the results are worth it. We spend a lot of time on this hardwood porch and I always feel great when it is done. Thank you for your product and guidance. It is appreciated.

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Armstrong
Admin
1 day ago
Reply to  Eddie K

Beautiful deck!

Jake
Jake
14 days ago

New cedar fence, let the wood weather only a month and it was stacked so not truly weathering. It’s too late I already made the mistake and applied the stain. What happens when you do this? I guess curing time is longer? Any other issues?

Armstrong
Admin
13 days ago
Reply to  Jake

When you apply too soon and or do not prep correctly, the stain may not penetrate fully and could fail faster than usual. Usually, it’s more of an issue for decking compared to vertical fences.

Jake
Jake
13 days ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thanks!

ray
ray
14 days ago

Red cedar-dry, but brand new. Can I stain right away?

Armstrong
Admin
14 days ago
Reply to  ray

No. Please follow directions in the above article.

Walter
Walter
15 days ago

I’ve stained my old deck a number of times with AC semi-transparent stain with good results, and just placed another order. I have to replace my PT rail caps, which are rotting. Given the age of the deck, I don’t think it’s worth the cost of using composite for the caps, and was considering replacing with pressure-treated material and staining it (after they age for long enough) with the same stain as the deck, but should I be concerned about the drying oils left at the surface potentially staining clothing of anyone sitting or leaning on the rails?.

Armstrong
Admin
14 days ago
Reply to  Walter

You will be fine as long as you follow the directions for new wood.

Walter
Walter
14 days ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thanks

Phil
Phil
25 days ago

What transparency holds up best to chlorine from a pool? Unlike most, my pool area is actually fairly shady so I am less concerned about UV resistance and more about durability/resilience

Armstrong
Admin
25 days ago
Reply to  Phil

No transparency or color (does not matter the stain brand) will be immune to chlorine/bleach. No matter what, it will “bleach” out the color over time.

Barb Barrett
Barb Barrett
1 month ago

I stained my cedar deck last august after letting new wood weather several months. How do I clean the wood without having to restain it? It definitely has dirt built up on it. Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Barb Barrett

All of our prep products are designed only for prep when recoating. Try some warm water and a little bit of dish soap to clean off the dirt.

Barb Barrett
Barb Barrett
1 month ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you!

Adrienne Bolstad
Adrienne Bolstad
1 month ago

Help! We installed a brand new cedar deck in August of 2024, we let it weather for a couple months and used the cleaner & brightener, we did use the power washer. We were about to stain it for the first time and then I re read your article about letting it weather so we did nothing until yesterday when I repeated the process with the cleaner and brightener, no power washer, just a brush; and the attached photos are what it looks like now. Could that be mill glaze on it even after two treatments?? I am worried to stain it until I know what I should do. I purchased your stain in transparent cedar tone.

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Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago

That is oxidation that you did not get fully off during the cleaning. You should redo the cleaning and use a pressure washer to help remove it.

Adrienne Bolstad
Adrienne Bolstad
1 month ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Just the cleaning part? Not the brightening?

Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago

Both.

Adrienne Bolstad
Adrienne Bolstad
1 month ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Its not on the whole deck, can I just treat the areas?

Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago

Use but brighten all after the cleaning, so it is pH balanced evenly.

Todd Allard
Todd Allard
1 month ago

I am converting from Cabot Australian oil as their new formulation is terrible. What is your closest product to their old formula and can I go over a tiger wood deck treated last fall with that old Cabot Aussie Oil formulation?

Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Todd Allard

No matter what, you have to strip off the old stain first. Use this kit:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Then use any of our hardwoood stain colors:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/ipe-stain-1-gallon

Chris Gentile
Chris Gentile
1 month ago

Hi, just had this KD cedar fence put up. Want to use the semi-trans cedar stain. The posts are PT pine, but the rest is cedar. First question: do I need to prep the posts before staining? Also, do you recommend one or two coats on new rough cut KD cedar boards? Thx

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Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Gentile

All wood should weather for a few months and then prepped with the Restore A Deck Cleaner and Brighener kit. One coat for all wood.

Steve Cashman
Steve Cashman
1 month ago

After prepping with the 2 step RAD, my Chestnut semi-transparent was a bit uneven, so after 24 hours, I decided to apply a second on a couple of lighter boards. Thought it would blend in fairly quickly, but it’s now over 24 hours and the boards still look wet (though dry to the touch with not much coming off on a rag wipedown). Thinking I overapplied. Should I wait it out for more drying to occur or rub the darker boards down with mineral spirits?

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Armstrong
Admin
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve Cashman

You cannot spot apply and have it blend. If you needed a second coat, you would apply to all the flooring to even it out. You can wipe it down now with rags and mineral spirits. Saturate any oily rags in water when done.

Eric Jorgensen
Eric Jorgensen
2 months ago

In installed a new deck in Feb of 2024. used the two step RAD process and AC semi-transparent (chestnut) stain in August of last year. I’m under the impression that for best results I should stain again this year. And right now would be a good time before we set up our deck for summer and fill it with pots etc.

Is it too soon? 8 months after initial stain?
Do I need to do both prep steps again with Rad before re-staining?

Thanks!

Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Jorgensen

How does it look? You may be fine until late Fall or next Spring. Post a pic or two in comments.

Eric jorgensen
Eric jorgensen
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Jorgensen

It looks OK although it feels like I’m already starting to see a little bit of Weir? I’m basically mostly concerned about being rock solid for the long-term. My last deck, I neglected so I would like to air on the side of doing better than worse.

Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric jorgensen

When time to redo, either now or Fall, use both steps for the prep.

Alissa
Alissa
2 months ago

I have a two year old deck, what do I need to stain this? It has never been stained

Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Alissa

Prep with this kit:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

After it dries for 48 hours, stain with the AC stain in any color you like.

Dave
Dave
2 months ago

I have a couple decks just completed 6 months ago. The deck is lava rock color trek decking and the railings are pressure treated wood. I want to stain the pressure treated (PT) wood this summer. still debating on if i want to go as dark as the deck or keep it similar to the current PT color.

my question is how does the PT wood affect the stain color selection? I assume i cant lighten the color up at all? I mean if i went with a cedar color it wouldnt go lighter than the current PT color unless i waited longer for it to start getting lighter?

I am also putting a cedar lattice on the bottom of the deck. to get close to the lava rock color of the deck. I am guessing I would go with the the black walnut hardwood stain? If i used this same stain on the PT wood as well i assume it would be darker?

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Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  Dave

Stains enhance the natural color of your wood. You cannot lighten the natural color of the wood. We would suggest trying some samples:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/samples

Look at Rustic Brown and Black Walnut to try to match the Trex.

William McComb
William McComb
2 months ago

I have a 3 year old deck that needs re-staining. Is Armstrong-Clark a recommended stain for an existing deck? What surface prep is required. The original stain was a Cabot semi-transparent that has been well weathere.

Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago
Reply to  William McComb

Use this kit for prep to remove the Cabot:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

AC stains work great for all decking. Any color that you like.

Paul Frey Painting LLC
Paul Frey Painting LLC
2 months ago

Need advice on how to clean and what stain to use on a Larch clad cabin in Pennsylvania, never been stained. Thanks Paul

Armstrong
Admin
2 months ago

Post pics for prep help in the comments.

Jeff Petrillo
Jeff Petrillo
3 months ago

Hi A-C, I am undertaking the renovation of a wrap-around porch with both new and old cedar. See Pics. The old cedar needs to be sanded as part of the renovation. However, I am confused about the correct order of preparation to achieve the best results using A-C semi-transparent Cedar stain. Contractors who have bid on the project recommended the following steps: 1. Wash/Strip wood, 2. Apply Brightener, 3. Pause to let the surface dry for one day, 4. Lightly sand, 5. Apply A-C stain. Is this the correct order, or should sanding be done before brightening? Thanks so much for your advice and great product. The new cedar is Port Orford Cedar.

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Armstrong
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Petrillo

Sanding does not need to be done as sanding may “close” the pores of the wood grain, reducing stain penetration. If you sand, never sand finer than 60-80 grit, and it is better to do it before the brightening step.

Jeff Petrillo
Jeff Petrillo
3 months ago

Hi A-C, I have a combo of 25-year old and new cedar on a wrap-around porch. And I am wondering whether I can mix together Cedar Semi-transparent and Mountain Cedar Semi-Solid in order to achieve a look in-between the two products. Is that possible? And will it work? Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Petrillo

Yes, you can mix. The only issue is that when using the semi-solid colors, the new wood has to weather for 1 year.

Jeff Petrillo
Jeff Petrillo
3 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

My contractor recommends using a semi-solid stain. He suggested waiting until June 2025 for the new wood to acclimate before starting the job. What is the reason for “waiting 1 year” before applying semi-solid stains to new cedar (which happens to be Port Orford Cedar and denser than red cedar)?

Armstrong
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Petrillo

No wood is not very porous, and the viscosity of the semi-solid colors can create issues when applied to new wood that is not “porous” enough to accept the semi-solid colors fully into the wood grain.

sarah
sarah
3 months ago

how does one remove mill glaze or tell if it has been removed?

Armstrong
Admin
3 months ago
Reply to  sarah

With the Cleaner and Brightener Restore A Deck Kit we sell.

Joel Fugazzotto
Joel Fugazzotto
9 months ago

My wife is extremely sensitive stain odors. Is there an odor and does it linger in the air and on the wood?

Armstrong
Admin
9 months ago

Yes, AC stains have an odor and will linger untill fuly cured. FYI, all deck stains will have an odor.

Jonathan Mazak
Jonathan Mazak
9 months ago

Hello, sorry if this has already been answered. How long do I have to wait to stain a new KDAT PT deck? The lumber tag said clear and sami-transparent could be done immediately. Semi-solid should be applied after 3-6 months. I want to use the black walnut stain, do you still recommend waiting 12 months? Is there a water test that could be performed as an indicator to “readiness”?

Thanks!

Armstrong
Admin
9 months ago
Reply to  Jonathan Mazak

You cannot stain it right away for KDAT. Wait 1-2 months for KDAT wood and then prep with this kit:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Melody Reese
Melody Reese
7 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Hi, I’m so glad to find this discussion and your stain. We are just finishing with the install of 33×13 KDAT Clear PT deck. I’ve had the lumber stacked in our pole barn since March. It’s the end of October here in Indiana. I had hopes of getting the stain on yet this season but I’m now I’m wondering? What do you recommend?

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Melody Reese

You have to install it, then weather it, and then prep it. Wait 1-2 months for KDAT wood and then prep with this kit:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Melody Reese
Melody Reese
7 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you! What are the temperature restrictions for the stain?

Armstrong
Admin
7 months ago
Reply to  Melody Reese

50-90 F.

Debbie
Debbie
7 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Is that just during application? What about night time temps?

Jeff
Jeff
10 months ago

Hello. Cedar deck about 4 years old. I did Cleaner and brightener but unfortunately I was not able to apply stain, it’s been over a week. Do I need to re-do any of these steps before I stain?

Armstrong
Admin
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

No, just make sure that blow or sweep off any debris.

Jeff
Jeff
10 months ago
Reply to  Armstrong

thank you. Still ok if it turns into 2 weeks?

Armstrong
Admin
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

If longer than 2 weeks do a light cleaning and redo of the brightener.

Amanda
Amanda
10 months ago

Just had a brand new deck built top boards are premium southern pine. I will need to lightly sand some areas to get the stamps off. I assume sand 80-100 grit, brighten and then stain. I plan on using your cedar semi-transparent. I know I must wait at least a month but is there anything else I am missing?

Armstrong
Admin
10 months ago
Reply to  Amanda

You sand stamps now with 60-80 grit and then weather for 3 or more months. Clean and brighten for prep before staining.

Pete
Pete
10 months ago

If I choose the natural colour transparent stain and have that for a couple years on our pressure treated deck, can I paint over that with your semi-transparent rustic brown colour? What prep work would be involved to switch from a transparent light colour to a semi-transparent dark colour? My deck faces faces south and gets full sun the whole day. Should I start with a transparent to showcase the wood or start with semi-transparent to give it decent UV protection right from the start on the new wood?

Armstrong
Admin
10 months ago
Reply to  Pete

If you switch colors, you would strip and brighten. This is very easy and no harder than cleaning—just a deeper clean down to the bare wood. We would suggest starting with semi-transparent colors.

Lorre Jay
Lorre Jay
11 months ago

Does new cedar fence need to cure before applying (amber preferably) stain. We may hit winter if so and will have to wait 6-8 mos.

Armstrong
Admin
11 months ago
Reply to  Lorre Jay

Yes, if smooth wood. No, if rough sawn.

Karen
Karen
11 months ago

I have a new cedar pergola, assembly just finished today. I see, per your article, the recommendation is to wait 3 months, then clean and brighten before stain. The pergola has a metal roof. Are there any concerns I should have for the metal roof with the clean and brighten products since they are sprayed on? Thank you.

Armstrong
Admin
11 months ago
Reply to  Karen

There is no 100% correct way to answer if a reaction will happen or not as there are many varaibles in play. Best to always test an area first.

Nick
Nick
11 months ago

I have a deck built a few years ago. An exotic hardwood “mahogany” deck that started off naturally red toned but after 4 months of sitting untreated it became more brown. I then used AC hardwood mahogany stain, and it brought back out some of the red but definitely more brown. I’ve done soap/bleach wash/scrub and reapplied for past 3 years and looks good overall (not complaining about that) and the wood is not graying (?) but stays same brown. Overall I’m happy just wished the color was more red. Any suggestions for future to bring back the red? I understand that the natural color fades with UV and exposure.

Now I also have some new steps built with same wood. Just installed and currently has that new reddish color especially obvious when wet. Anything I can do to keep that red color? Can I lightly sand and/or use Restore a Deck right away and then apply stain without waiting? Do I use the mahogany color or something else? (I’m willing to reapply sooner than 1 year – very small area!) Thank you!!

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Armstrong
Admin
11 months ago
Reply to  Nick

For the new wood, you have to wait and prep. For the older wood, you may want to remove the current stain to help restore the original color with our Stripper Kit and pressure washing:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Some of the darkening/more brown over time may be due to dirt and UV.

Then stain all with the AC Mahogany color. You cannot make it any more “red” than that.

Jan Barker
Jan Barker
11 months ago

After staining with a semi transparent stain and then applying a second coat, the wood still looks dry like it needs another coat of stain. What can be done so the wood doen’t look dried out and show the best coloring of the stain.

Armstrong
Admin
11 months ago
Reply to  Jan Barker

We would not suggest adding more than 2 coats. AC stains are not supposed to be shiny as they are penetrating. Over applying will lead to curing issues.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
1 year ago

If I select a colored transparent stain for the new deck, can I use a semi-transparent next year for the re-coat with the same prep (clean & brighten) if needed for additional UV protection?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

When changing colors you should strip and brighten for prep. Very easy to do and just as easy as cleaning.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
1 year ago

I have a new southern yellow pine PT deck that I finished up a few weeks ago and am researching stains etc. My mill stamps say KD-HT which is kiln dried- heat treated per the mill. Does that make a difference in your 3-4 month wait on a new smooth deck surface?
Will the prep product remove the mill stamps and chalk lines or should I sand first (60-80 grit) Thank you

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

1-2 months and then the prep. You should sand off the mill stamps now.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

Thank you for your speedy reply and advice.

Frank Miracola
Frank Miracola
1 year ago

I just completed tearing out and replacing a badly rotted deck with new P/T SYP -southern yellow pine, that is mill stamped KD- HT which means Kiln Dried Heat Treated. My research shows the waiting period is between 1-2 months here on your forum to a year before prepping and staining. I am leaning towards using the AC stain as I see the benefits of oil base over latex but if you would please comment on the waiting time. Thank you for your assist.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank Miracola

For KDAT, 1-2 months and then clean and brighten for prep. One coat of stain.

lucy3
lucy3
1 year ago

I had a 12×12 Cedar deck installed in September,2022, in PNW. I put one coat of ReadySeal stain on when deck was new, after prepping with bleach. (As instructed by manufacturer). Restained, after bleaching (per manufacturer advice) again with one coat of ReadySeal early summer, 2023.Restained again with one coat of ReadySeal in May,2024, after prepping with Restore a deck stripper and brightener. Deck is now 1yr and 8 months old. Is it bad that my deck never cured when new?Can I reverse that? I want to switch in summer of 2025 to AC stain. The ReadySeal stain will only last to summer of 2025, because of the one coat. Should I let my deck weather for a couple of years before switching to AC stain ?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  lucy3

Just strip and brighten next year and you can switch the the AC stains.

Paul Lebow
Paul Lebow
1 year ago

I have a deck with only 4 years of AC semi-transparent. Looks pretty bad. Green mildew builds up yearly, not much direct sun. (see photos)

I want to re-coat with AC semi-solid. Can I light pressure wash as prep?

A few boards need replacing – I will reapply semi-solid on those boards after a year of oxidizing. Any reason not to?

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul Lebow

You will need to strip and brighten to switch to the semi-solid. Very easy to do:
https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox
1 year ago

So I’m getting a quote for $3000 to sand and strip off the Armstrong stain that I’ve put on the last couple of years and then put a PENOFIN on the wood. Do I need to do this or is power washing the mahagony deck (which is perfectly smooth) Nd then two coats of your stain ok??? Please help!!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jessica Fox

Penofin is an inferior stain and will turn your mahogany deck black in color. For prep, use the RAD Cleaner and brightener kit and then the AC stain in one of the hardwood colors.

Jessica Fox
Jessica Fox
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

What is RAD? Do you sell it? Do you need a pressure washer? Sorry I am not very handy. I already have your stain but it has been sitting in the shed unopened. Can I just stir it up?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jessica Fox

RAD Kit: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Apply and pressure wash off. Brightener is last. Make sure to stir the stain well.

Rose
Rose
1 year ago

Have on covered porch AC mixture of 3 parts transparent to 1 part semi-transparent. Cleaned w TSP, oxiclean, water mixture. Do I have to brighten before using AC again? Also, why did the boards more exposed to the sun get so dark looking? Only did 1 coat. Boards are 11 years old and all was sanded before applying AC. Too old? The vertical posts did not and lasted 3 years. Much thanks.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Rose

You have to clean and brighen when recoating. Brightener alone does not prep for recoating. Sanding is not the best way to prep as it limits stain penetration. I would guess that the exposed wood got “dirty” as your stain may have not been able to soak in fully due to the sanding.

RayG
RayG
1 year ago

Is the 12 month semi solid rule that black and white? Installed some pressure treated stair treads mid October of 2023. Looking to add stain mid/end of June 2024 with Oxford brown. 8 months good enough?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  RayG

Yes, 12 months for the semi-solid colors. 3 months for the transparent and semi-transparent colors.

Art Seplak
Art Seplak
1 year ago

I have a just-installed KDAT wood deck. The boards have a reddish- cedar tone color. Before waiting several months before using the single coat of AC stain, do I have to remove whatever the coloring is, or can I just apply the stain over it?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Art Seplak

If it is a surface stain, you need to strip and brighten to remove it. If it is internal and part of the KDAT processing, then clean and brighten.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

BTW, with KDAT, you only need to weather for 1-2 months and then the prep. Just one coat of the AC stain.

MJ Ford
MJ Ford
1 year ago

My pine treated deck was built 7 years ago and was weathered 7 months before I put a semi transparent stain on. A few years later I put on a semi solid stain which peeled badly after 18 months. Both stains are Behr from Home Depot. I just stripped the deck, and sanded it but there are a few areas where the solid stain isn’t 100 % removed but close to 90%. I would like to use Armstrong-Clark semi solid after I clean and brighten. Question I have is do I need to wait 12 months to weather since it was sanded down or can I apply new semi sold. I don’t know how to post a pic.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  MJ Ford

You will need to remove 100% of the Behr stain first before using the AC Stains. If you power sanded, you can stain now as long as you did not sand finer than 80 grit. Make sure to clean and brighten for final prep. Just 1 coat of the AC stain.

MJ Ford
MJ Ford
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Thank you and thanks for the quick reply.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

My house redwood shingles were pressure washed but not stripped of previous stain. Stained with sierra redwood not brightened and look great. I then put old new looking never stained redwood shingles on a section and pressure washed and brightened and sierra redwood stained. At the same time i stripped the cedar deck and brightened and applied sierra redwood stain. All were wet on wet. The original unstripped shingles look great. The redwood stained cedar deck looks great. The new section of shingles are very light colored and no where a match for the unstripped shingles and the cedar deck. Yikes. I just want to get the red into the new section of shingles.

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Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

It is not possible to get new wood to match older wood. The new wood will always stain lighter since it is less absorbent. Adding more stain will proabbly not make it blend better.

Kristen
Kristen
1 year ago

I purchased semi-transparent wood stain to apply to new Tigerwood top railing of deck. Needed to sand off mill marks last week. Was going to next apply stain. Discussion here has me reconsidering. What are your recommendations and timing? Thanks!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Kristen

You will need to follow the directions for new wood as explained in this article.

Barb B.
Barb B.
1 year ago

Hi I live in Chicago. I had a new cedar deck built, started in mid July, and finished in August. Can I stain it using semi transparent stain at end of October? Im nervous about weathering wood over wet and snowy winter. Could mold and fungus be a problem by spring? Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Barb B.

Best to wait until spring. It will be fine.

Sergey
Sergey
1 year ago

Hi, I live in Mississauga, Ontario. I installed new deck with thermowood raillings. Can I use AC translusant with tint oil on thermawood?
Thank you in advance.
Sergey.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Sergey

After weathering and prep, yes. One coat only.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

Would like to do wet on wet or must i wait one year for second coat?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

For new wood, only 1 coat.

randy d
randy d
1 year ago

My cedar deck is stained with TWP cedartone. Before i applied the stain i overpower washed in several areas. I now want to sand the deck but TWP after seeing pictures says to strip, brighten and stain. I want to switch to Armstrong Clark Sierra Redwood to match my house or possibly Cedar after a test. How best to proceed?

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  randy d

Strip to remove the TWP, sand after if needed with 60-80 grit paper. Brighten last. Only 1 ocat for sanded wood.

Jeff C.
Jeff C.
1 year ago

Hi,
I installed a new Redwood fence in June in Central Valley in California.
Its really hot and dry here. Do I need to wait 3-4 months still before staining typical high temps are around 100
I have also cleaned and brighten the fence already using the RAD product.
I saw on another site it said that I could stain in 2 months from install
Thanks
Jeff

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff C.

Yes, 3 or more months and then clean and brigthen then, not now.

Jane McLaren
Jane McLaren
1 year ago

I stripped and prepared my deck floor removing another stain product, to be stained using AC (used RAD to strip/clean as per directions). We have not yet stained due to the amount of rainy days this year. We now realize we have 7 boards to replace as they warped and will soon be blocking the door’s ability to open. My plan is to stain the rest of the deck and leave the other boards till next spring (3-4 months from now will be too cold to stain). Am I ok to do that leaving the new boards to over winter (I am in Ontario, Canada so that means lots of snow and ice on it without any protection). I don’t want to end up with warped boards again. Is there anything we could /should do to protect it over winter? The other option is to remove and flip the boards but they are starting to split and we are not confident that they will last if we just flip them. thanks.

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane McLaren

Yes, you can leave them and no, you cannot protect them over the Winter. They need to weather.

Jane McLaren
Jane McLaren
1 year ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Would I be better to just leave the entire deck till spring? It is 6 years old. I just stripped it Sunday (which was when I realized how warped those boards were) Thank you

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jane McLaren

You can. For prep, clean and brigthen in the Spring.

Paul
Paul
1 year ago

Leaning towards AC stain. I had a new pressure-treated pine wood deck built about 1 and a half months ago (upstate SC and it’s July right now). Wood moisture meter is giving reading of around 12% or lower now. 

Questions: 

your tips page for new decks says to wait 3-4 months, but the Internet and the deck builder indicate I can probably go ahead and stain given moisture’s reading low enough. Seems to be conflicting info, so is it safe to stain already or no?

If safe, do I need to prep the PT wood with the Restore-a-Dec cleaner and brightener kit since it’s only been 1 1/2 months? Wasn’t sure if the kit is recommended due to the insinuation it wouldn’t be applied until 3-4 months as your guide says.

Any need to pressure wash it at all in addition, or in lieu, of using the RAD kit?

How long will an opened 5 gallon stain container last for? How long will a non-opened gallon container last for? (will help me decide whether to get 5 gal container or buy single gallons)

Your new deck guide page says 1 coat, but somewhere else on the site says 1 coat but then 2 if it penetrates within 30 minutes; so for a new deck I can do 2 if it penetrates within 30 min? Your stain amount calculator also defaults to assuming 2 coats…

It’s a 14′ by 20′ low deck with partial wrap-around 2 steps…I don’t want to purchase too little stain, but don’t want to purchase too much if it won’t last at least a year to do another coat after the first year.

Thanks, I really appreciate your time to respond to my questions!

Armstrong
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Yes, you must wait 3-4 months. Any other advice is incorrect. It is not about moisture % but porosity.

Yes, you have to prep with the kit and pressure washing.

Opened lasts 12 months, unopened about 2-3 years.

Only one coat for new smooth wood.

Jesse G
Jesse G
2 years ago

I tested driftwood grey on green treated lumber for my new deck floor. To get a closer color match to the composite I used on top of the deck rails took two coats. Is it ok to apply two coats and if so, should the 2nd coat be applied wet or after the first dries? Or should I wait another year for the 2nd coat?

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Jesse G

Only one coat is suggested for new wood. Over applying and it may not be able to fully soak into the wood grain and that could result in curing issues.

Jacob greiner
Jacob greiner
2 years ago

New deck last year, waited 3 months to weather, prepped and stained, but missed the inside of spindles. It’s been almost a year and it gets a ton of direct sun. I already have the stain and should I reapply now? Its already starting to lighten up and I’m think it’s ready. What is the prep process for the 2nd coat?

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Jacob greiner

See here for prep products for recoating: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-kit

Jeanne Thomas
Jeanne Thomas
2 years ago

I have a Thermory Ash porch floor installed 7 years ago. It was previously stained with Superdeck semi-transparent. If I remove the old stain by sanding, do I need to take any other steps before using your semi-transparent stain?

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeanne Thomas

Much easier to strip and brighten for prep compared to sanding: https://www.armstrongclarkstain.com/restore-a-deck-stripper

Jeanne Thomas
Jeanne Thomas
2 years ago
Reply to  Armstrong

If it was a deck, I would – but this porch has a solid stucco half wall on 3 sides: there’s no drainage for large amounts of water for rinsing. So is Armstrong Clark not a good product for my application?

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeanne Thomas

Yes, it works great but prepping by stripping is easier than sanding.

Vanessa
Vanessa
2 years ago

We just installed new fence – one side is smooth (our side) and the other side is rough. I see that I have to wait 3-4 months for the smooth side to weather to stain it. However the rough is dry and can be stained anytime. Do you recommend to stain the rough side first and can i do it without cleaning and brightening? Or would it be better to stain both sides at same time e.g. so color doesn’t leak through or wood is protected at same time or maybe some other reason? There is a 1/8″ gap between the fench panels. I’m planning to use transparent or semi transparent

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Vanessa

No, prep and stain all at once in 3-4 months. It will bleed through so you cannot do one side at a time.

Char
Char
2 years ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Does both sides need to be prep and stained if done later?

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Char

No, just the exposed side.

Char
Char
2 years ago
Reply to  Armstrong

Both sides are exposed.

Armstrong
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Char

If it is exposed then prep and stain.

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